Obama backs mosque near ground zero

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Of course Obama backs it......what President doesn't pander

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Of course Obama backs it......what President doesn't pander

to Islamic voters?

He's a muslim, you see.  

And, do you remember the Clintons who made Ramadan en vogue?

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Drudge is hilarious right now

Indeed.......funny/

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Lunar, c'mon, while it's not a federal issue, the President weighing in on an issue which everyone thinks is related to 9/11 is standard fare.

Everyone needs to calm down.  What he said was (translated into plain english)

1)  They have a right to build it, and

2)  It's a dumb f****ng idea.


If he omitted #1 everyone would be jumpin' ugly, saying he doesn't understand the fundamental principles of our nation and he added #2, which is what he really thinks.

I hate when Presidents "clarify" what they mean when they didn't say anything wrong to begin with.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Lunar, c'mon, while it's not a federal issue, the President weighing in on an issue which everyone thinks is related to 9/11 is standard fare.

Everyone needs to calm down.  What he said was (translated into plain english)

1)  They have a right to build it, and

2)  It's a dumb f****ng idea.


If he omitted #1 everyone would be jumpin' ugly, saying he doesn't understand the fundamental principles of our nation and he added #2, which is what he really thinks.

I hate when Presidents "clarify" what they mean when they didn't say anything wrong to begin with.

Except it's not a "dumb ing idea". Aside from the people getting their panties in a twist on TV about it, all of whom are blatantly doing so only for political gain, no one would care if they weren't told that they should care. Certainly the "9/11 families" whom everyone claims to be defending don't care--if they did, you'd think FOX would have found an angry family member to blast across the TV screens by now.

No one getting angry about this has any emotional investment in the WTC, and claiming otherwise is pure bullsh**t.

If he didn't come out and say it was dumb (which he did), the political fallout would be overwhelming.  While your last sentence is correct, why is necessary to have an emotional "investment" in the WTC?  If you didn't live in NYC or lose someone in the towers or planes you have no right to feel strongly about this?  (I could care less, I don't feel strongly, I'm just asking)

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Harry Reid is against the mosque......Ooopps

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

He's against it for being insensitive or whatevsky, but thinks they have the right to do it.

Identical to Obama

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

He's against it for being insensitive or whatevsky, but thinks they have the right to do it.

Identical to Obama

Is it?  I remember that Obama thinks they have the right to do it, but I don't remember him saying explicitly that they shouldn't do it?

"I question the wisdom"......didn't you see my earlier translation? 

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

He's against it for being insensitive or whatevsky, but thinks they have the right to do it.

Identical to Obama

Is it?  I remember that Obama thinks they have the right to do it, but I don't remember him saying explicitly that they shouldn't do it?

"I question the wisdom"......didn't you see my earlier translation? 

That's not quite as bold as Reid's statement though, eh?

Presidents are rarely that bold.....but they said the same thing, IMO

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

"I question the wisdom" seems a *lot* softer than "They should it build it somewhere else."

Heck, Reid's statement comes with the Associated Press headline, which I presume is uncontested [or unsuccessfully contested] by the Reid campaign that Reid is "against the mosque."  Pretty notable imo

You don't see any difference in how the President must address something vs. a Senator?

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Maybe it was pointed out here, but you can't see the mosque from Ground Zero, nor can you see Ground Zero from the mosque.

I don't get the big whup about it.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Maybe it was pointed out here, but you can't see the mosque from Ground Zero, nor can you see Ground Zero from the mosque.

I don't get the big whup about it.

It's a made up issue because the GOP can't win on substantive issue.

But, memphis, even Harry Reid is on the bandwagon?  But yeah, Gingrich and his ilk are over the top.  It's bad when Pat Buchanan basically calls Gingrich an asshole.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Maybe it was pointed out here, but you can't see the mosque from Ground Zero, nor can you see Ground Zero from the mosque.

I don't get the big whup about it.

It's a made up issue because the GOP can't win on substantive issue.

But, memphis, even Harry Reid is on the bandwagon?  But yeah, Gingrich and his ilk are over the top.  It's bad when Pat Buchanan basically calls Gingrich an asshole.

Reid is a major HP for jumping on this train, but it's not like he was the one instigating it. It's been close to two weeks now since Palin urged people to "refudiate."

LOL.......I almost forgot about the refudiate remark.  Some GOPers (the smart few) are distancing themselves from Gingrich.  He's more caustic than Sweet Sarah.