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Bacon King
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« on: October 25, 2014, 04:59:54 AM »

  • The Northeast (40 people) and Mideast (48 people) are large and active so they're untouched
  • IDS (25), Pacific (26), and Midwest (29) are small so should be merged into two
  • The map is prettier if the Pacific is the one carved up
  • Also works because Midwest and IDS both have strong distinct cultures
  • The only notable thing about the Pacific is we literally tried to abolish ourselves already anyway
  • I gave the South Oklahoma and Kansas to make the map tidier
  • New South has 42 people, New Midwest has 38
  • I also gave the Maritime provinces from the IDS to the Northeast but they're unpopulated so it doesn't really matter
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Bacon King
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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2014, 06:22:56 AM »

And if you look at the voter rolls in the Pacific now, it surely isn't bound to happen these days. Even with a crowdsourced-aggregate map and detailed plan that we spent months on, people couldn't get on board. But anyone who's wanting to continue carrying the torch of consolidation need only finish ratifying FTRA in (2?) of the 3 regions that have yet to ratify it to begin the next phase (consent; Senate). If a majority of a regional legislature is willing to support that, then they can use the 17th Amendment to make it happen (at least that one part of the consolidation)

Which regions haven't passed it? Is there a link to the text of this FTRA because it doesn't look like there's a spot on the Wiki for unsuccessful/yet-to-be-successful amendments to the third constitution
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Bacon King
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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2014, 02:53:28 PM »


Thanks bore

I actually like this map.

Also, out of curiosity, what are the islands down from Hawaii?

Oceania, the state made of US pacific territories
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Bacon King
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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2014, 01:19:19 PM »

Are you guys really still working on this? lol

Not having a Western-based region is silly. The Midwest/Mideast is obviously the least natural split.

Idk nobody has talked about this in ages but I like the idea.

I agree not having a western region is silly but having a western region featuring Generalissimo Simfan as the entirety of the regional government is arguably even sillier, and those appear to be our only two options right now
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Bacon King
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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2014, 05:36:49 PM »

Are you guys really still working on this? lol

Not having a Western-based region is silly. The Midwest/Mideast is obviously the least natural split.

Idk nobody has talked about this in ages but I like the idea.

I agree not having a western region is silly but having a western region featuring Generalissimo Simfan as the entirety of the regional government is arguably even sillier, and those appear to be our only two options right now

What is this supposed to mean? You want to abolish the region for the mere purpose of forcing me out of office? This is absurd.

No Simfan you're actually doing a fine job as governor. I was just pointing out that the Pacific government is pretty much just a one man show
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Bacon King
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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2014, 05:45:08 PM »

I like the idea of districts in principle - at-large elections are dull - but the problem that would have to be dealt with is, as we've seen this election, crude strategic registration.

As long as everyone gets outraged about it at some point, I see this as a feature. (Although we would need to address the "change your state every 48 hours" rule.)

If we have redistricting every four months (halfway between elections) and only allow any movement between states once every eight months I think that would help prevent major strategic registration problems with districts (i.e., if a party tries to pack a district the voters they move will be stuck there until the map-after-next is drawn, so the party would just be trading an advantage in one election for a disadvantage in the next)
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