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Bacon King
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« on: May 11, 2009, 08:16:45 PM »

     Sections 4 & 6 suck. The rest is wonderful.

Heroin shouldn't have an age restriction?
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« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2009, 11:12:31 AM »

Franzl +afleitch + HappyWarrior + Purple State + MasterJedi + presumably Smid = no passing of this bill
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« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2009, 02:37:54 PM »

     So what would people being willing to legalize, anyway?

If heroin were legalised, we would have to provide a whole host of measures to 'support it' including extended needle exchange, help for children whose parents take it, children born technically addicted, mental health care etc. A huge extension of the state just to allow people to get smacked out their heads legally.

     That doesn't answer my question, but okay.

What more do you want? You already have marijuana.

Huh?
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Bacon King
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« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2009, 02:51:41 PM »

I assume PiT did ask for what drugs we'd all be willing to legalize. Your response made it sound like you were alleging he wanted them legalized for his personal use or something. I was a bit confused, is all.

BTW, note that LSD is also decriminalized. Something else might be too but I don't remember.
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« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2009, 03:33:24 PM »

For the record, I would support further decriminalization of nondangerous drugs.
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Bacon King
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« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2009, 08:41:48 PM »

Does it deserve to be illegal and have its users stigmatized by the government and society?

You are asking the wrong questions, PS.
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« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2009, 09:36:17 PM »

Ebowed had some sort of comprehensive legalization bill a while back that never got passed; I'll go looking for that.
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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2009, 01:29:41 PM »

Well, I guess the question is, to the Senate, which of the above substances do you feel actually deserves being illegal?
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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2009, 03:57:32 PM »

I'd also prefer we strike out methamphetamine, for starters, and I'd prefer to look up some of the ones I'm unfamiliar with before proposing anything official.

edit- yeah, PiT, I think it's okay to go ahead and assume all the "yellow" drugs will be included in the amendment
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Bacon King
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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2009, 04:03:47 PM »

If you're going to use the list above still, just bold the ones we deem acceptable and keep striking out unacceptable ones.
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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2009, 12:15:39 PM »

Good, and offering a friendly amendment to add the following substances:

DMT (harmless hallucinogen)
ephedrine (made from a natural herb, energy stimulant, legal in USA)
opium
Ibogaine (hallucinogen; believed to help fight addictions)
5-MeO-DiPT (harmless psychedelic)
2C-T-7 (psychedelic; a few reported deaths but only at very high dosages) (note= legality equals proper labelling!)
2C-B (harmless psychedelic)
AMT (hallucinogen; legal in UK)
5-OH-DMT (possibly hallucinogenic? No reason for it to be banned, at any rate)
Amphetamine (stimulant; mostly harmless)
dextroamphetamine (basically an analogue to amphetamine)
benzylpiperazine (legal in many places; generally nonaddictive)
codeine (like a weaker oxycodone but not nearly as addictive)
synthetic cannabinoids (if marijuana is legal no reason these shouldn't be)
marinol (tradename for THC. see above)

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Bacon King
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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2009, 04:30:25 PM »

Ah, it was actually included on accident. Yes, feel free to remove it.
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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2009, 05:09:55 PM »

I may be mistaken, but don't we already have a safe injection site constructed or something? We should have the funds go towards funding that rather than billing a new one.
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Bacon King
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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2009, 11:25:43 PM »

Ah, let's keep it in, in that case.

Note also, MJ, that the thread should be retitled.
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« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2009, 08:29:39 AM »

aye
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