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« on: January 14, 2017, 07:29:32 PM »

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http://www.pollingreport.com/russia.htm

Most Americans never wanted him elected. Now he continues to defy the will of the majority of Americans to help Putin. When are Americans going to get a government that looks after America?

-On January 20, hopefully. Build the Wall! Muslim Ban Now!
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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2017, 10:27:30 PM »

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Intelligently defend a Muslim ban. I'm just curious, for entertainment's sake.

-There are very few Muslims in the United States, and yet, they commit a surprisingly large number and portion of terrorist attacks in the US. The vast majority of Muslims in the world have no ability to enter the United States. A Muslim ban would reduce the number of Muslims in the United States relative to counterfactual. Consequently, a Muslim ban would reduce the number of terrorist attacks in the U.S. without affecting the lives all that many Muslims (there are maybe a couple million in the U.S.; over a billion in the entire world).

Anything more I should add?
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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2017, 01:11:19 AM »

Let's deconstruct this.

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Compare the number of gun deaths and deaths by terrorist attacks from foreign outsiders in the United States. I think you'll find gun related deaths end up being much larger than if we added San Bernandino, the Orlando gay bar attack, and 9/11.

This suggests very much that we are psychologically terrified of Muslims but in proportion to their ability to actually cause harm, it's quite low.

-So? Still a pretty big issue. If a Muslim is 10x more prone to terrorism than an average immigrant, that's a pretty good argument for banning them.

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So? But there's already terrorist attacks. Maybe the answer is to deport all Muslim citizens from the United States?[/quote]

-You know that would violate the First Amendment.

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Sure. Maybe. I mean, again, deaths by single lone wolf attacks are radically, vastly, outnumbered by gun deaths, car accidents, plane crashes, deer crashes, whatever.[/quote]

-I'm not going to fall for distractions.

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-Hardly any Muslim converts to Christianity in the Middle East. Sure, we're going to pick and choose. Sure, create an exception for Christians.

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-And yet, Dearborn's 2016 vote was pretty much identical to its 2012 vote. Italy didn't become an enemy because of the 1924 immigration act. China didn't become an enemy because of the Chinese Exclusion Act. For the most part "Muslim allies" (outside the YPG) are untrustworthy. There are no good reasons to trust the people that helped create ISIS to destroy it.

Too many Muslim terrorists (e.g., the Orlando shooter) have been born in the U.S. A temporary shutdown is good; a generation-long one is better.
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