Trump & Russia effect on 2020

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Putin is as much a ruthless dictator that murders his own people as Obama was. Less, actually.

Clay is deranged, as typical for a Bush-lover who went for HRC.

My guess is that the Russia issue, if it is brought up will, if anything, hurt the Democrats, as it did in 2016, due to all sane people being frightened of fools seeking fame stoking Hitler-style xenophobia. I know for a fact lots of young pro-Bernie people considered HRC toxic for Her saber-rattling at the largest nuclear-armed power in the world.

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Oh, Democrats will almost certainly bring it up. I would be surprised if it didn't backfire spectacularly or had any impact, though.

Serious question how is it in RW world foreign powers donating to the Clinton Foundation (which is a charity) is enough to make Hillary a crook but Trump an his team constantly lying about meeting the Russian ambassador, the RNC platform on Ukraine is changed an reportably by Trump's orders, his over the top defense of Putin, an his decade long rumored ties to Russian oligarchs not even raise an eyebrow

-Why are you supporting risking WWIII over Ukraine for no reason? Obama didn't, and, for good reason, neither does the current Prez. Trump's defenses of Putin have the benefit of being true, something not shared by most amateur Putinologist criticisms of the man. This is surprising, as Trump tends to lie about everything, even little and obvious things.

The Clinton Foundation is just the Clintons' version of the Trump Foundation, but on a far larger scale. Both orgs are sleazy to the extreme.

Trump's ties with Russian oligarchs are, firstly, so non-existent as for there to be no Trump Tower in Moscow, second, were encouraged by the U.S. press for the entire decade of the 2000s.

Who's funding this mad Russophobia, anyway? Who benefit from it? It's certainly not good for the U.S.

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Putin is as much a ruthless dictator that murders his own people as Obama was. Less, actually.

Clay is deranged, as typical for a Bush-lover who went for HRC.

My guess is that the Russia issue, if it is brought up will, if anything, hurt the Democrats, as it did in 2016, due to all sane people being frightened of fools seeking fame stoking Hitler-style xenophobia. I know for a fact lots of young pro-Bernie people considered HRC toxic for Her saber-rattling at the largest nuclear-armed power in the world.

I'm sorry. You just said that Obama was more of a murderous dictator than Putin is. Anything you said after that cannot be taken seriously.

Honestly how can you defend Putin? The man kills his own citizens and YES he IS a ruthless dictator. Do you really know so little of world affairs that you don't know this?

-No; I know infinitely more than you. Have you seen Putin's approval rating lately?

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Oh, Democrats will almost certainly bring it up. I would be surprised if it didn't backfire spectacularly or had any impact, though.

Serious question how is it in RW world foreign powers donating to the Clinton Foundation (which is a charity) is enough to make Hillary a crook but Trump an his team constantly lying about meeting the Russian ambassador, the RNC platform on Ukraine is changed an reportably by Trump's orders, his over the top defense of Putin, an his decade long rumored ties to Russian oligarchs not even raise an eyebrow

Because most Americans view Saudi Arabia with a negative shade in their eyes. If Saudi Arabia gives you money, most people don't see that as a good thing. Secondly, whats so bad about meeting a foreign ambassador? Third, when was his """"over the top defense"""" of Putin? The most I've heard is "I don't know Putin," not sure how that's an over the top defense though.

I'd like some evidence  for these claims. These are some over the top allegations :/

Why is Saudi Arabia worse than Russia? Saudi Arabia has not shot down airliners, invaded foreign countries, or hacked Americans. Even their record on women's rights is improving, not that Trump supporters give a crap about that. And even if you do hate Saudi Arabia for some unjustified reason, Trump has approved arms sales to Saudi Arabia that had been blocked by Obama for human rights reasons.

-Man, if you're so ignorant as to be unaware of the Saudi interventions in Bahrain and Yemen, you might not be qualified to be mod. The U.S. has shot down airliners, though. How do you know Saudi Arabia hasn't hacked Americans?

Saudi Arabia lacks all form of democratic government, unlike Russia, and has much less regard for its citizens' liberties. It's also a much larger state sponsor of terror.

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Oh, Democrats will almost certainly bring it up. I would be surprised if it didn't backfire spectacularly or had any impact, though.

Serious question how is it in RW world foreign powers donating to the Clinton Foundation (which is a charity) is enough to make Hillary a crook but Trump an his team constantly lying about meeting the Russian ambassador, the RNC platform on Ukraine is changed an reportably by Trump's orders, his over the top defense of Putin, an his decade long rumored ties to Russian oligarchs not even raise an eyebrow

-Why are you supporting risking WWIII over Ukraine for no reason? Obama didn't, and, for good reason, neither does the current Prez. Trump's defenses of Putin have the benefit of being true, something not shared by most amateur Putinologist criticisms of the man. This is surprising, as Trump tends to lie about everything, even little and obvious things.

The Clinton Foundation is just the Clintons' version of the Trump Foundation, but on a far larger scale. Both orgs are sleazy to the extreme.

Trump's ties with Russian oligarchs are, firstly, so non-existent as for there to be no Trump Tower in Moscow, second, were encouraged by the U.S. press for the entire decade of the 2000s.

Who's funding this mad Russophobia, anyway? Who benefit from it? It's certainly not good for the U.S.

Why is Putin risking WWIII by murdering civilians in Syria and shooting at US plans? Funny how you think Putin's crimes are not worth mentioning the the US defending Ukraine sovereignty is a crime

Why was Hillary risking WWIII by putting a no-fly zone over Syria to shoot down Russian planes?

Why are you using pathetic hyperbole to defend Putin's atrocities in Syria?

-So you're saying ISIS should take over Syria?

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Beet, you said invaded, not annexed. Those interventions count under most reasonable definitions.

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Oh, Democrats will almost certainly bring it up. I would be surprised if it didn't backfire spectacularly or had any impact, though.

Serious question how is it in RW world foreign powers donating to the Clinton Foundation (which is a charity) is enough to make Hillary a crook but Trump an his team constantly lying about meeting the Russian ambassador, the RNC platform on Ukraine is changed an reportably by Trump's orders, his over the top defense of Putin, an his decade long rumored ties to Russian oligarchs not even raise an eyebrow

-Why are you supporting risking WWIII over Ukraine for no reason? Obama didn't, and, for good reason, neither does the current Prez. Trump's defenses of Putin have the benefit of being true, something not shared by most amateur Putinologist criticisms of the man. This is surprising, as Trump tends to lie about everything, even little and obvious things.

The Clinton Foundation is just the Clintons' version of the Trump Foundation, but on a far larger scale. Both orgs are sleazy to the extreme.

Trump's ties with Russian oligarchs are, firstly, so non-existent as for there to be no Trump Tower in Moscow, second, were encouraged by the U.S. press for the entire decade of the 2000s.

Who's funding this mad Russophobia, anyway? Who benefit from it? It's certainly not good for the U.S.

Why is Putin risking WWIII by murdering civilians in Syria and shooting at US plans? Funny how you think Putin's crimes are not worth mentioning the the US defending Ukraine sovereignty is a crime

-Russia hasn't shot at US planes, enough alternative facts. RU's Syria intervention is no more a crime than the U.S.'s is in Iraq. Both are equally justified by the same circumstances.

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Did the Mexican War not occur? And how did the U.S. take possession of the Northern Marianas, anyway?

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Clay displays his lack of knowledge about the world again. For Putin's victories are no more fake than LBJ's or Eisenhower's.

Clay, have you seen Putin's approval rating in Russia? Why isn't it just as high in the U.S.?

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Clay displays his lack of knowledge about the world again. For Putin's victories are no more fake than LBJ's or Eisenhower's.

Clay, have you seen Putin's approval rating in Russia? Why isn't it just as high in the U.S.?

I haven't seen his approval rating in Russia, nor do I care to.  I'll say it again: HE IS A DICTATOR.  If he wants his ratings to be high, they will be.

-Neither is the case outside your imagination.

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It is a fact that Putin has had dozens of opponents/ adversaries murdered over the course of his reign (not too different that North Korean tactics regarding opponents).

Just as bad... when he became President, he had no notable wealth to speak of (as he grew up poor, then was a KGB agent)... since becoming President, he has become literally the richest man in the World- worth an estimated 200 Billion (and many of his cohorts have become Billionaires as well (via Putin handouts of property, etc following the break-up of the USSR)... while the majority of Russia has suffered from their awful economy. During this time Putin has created a large cadre (which also serves as a protective barrier around him) of new Millionaires via practices that are corrupt beyond anything the US could imagine...

-Of course, neither accusation happens to be, you know, true.

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It is a fact that Putin has had dozens of opponents/ adversaries murdered over the course of his reign (not too different that North Korean tactics regarding opponents).

Just as bad... when he became President, he had no notable wealth to speak of (as he grew up poor, then was a KGB agent)... since becoming President, he has become literally the richest man in the World- worth an estimated 200 Billion (and many of his cohorts have become Billionaires as well (via Putin handouts of property, etc following the break-up of the USSR)... while the majority of Russia has suffered from their awful economy. During this time Putin has created a large cadre (which also serves as a protective barrier around him) of new Millionaires via practices that are corrupt beyond anything the US could imagine...

-Of course, neither accusation happens to be, you know, true.

Do you honestly think neither is true?  That he has political opponents killed.... and he went from no wealth to a multi-multi Billionaire over the course of his Presidency?

-Of course not. Both are squarely ridiculous.

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I think it's just nuts to deny the fact that he has had detractors killed.  I cannot wrap my head around this mentality.

-Did you Google #ClintonBodyCount? Far more substantiated.