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« on: July 18, 2014, 01:59:25 PM »

If you buy the absolute cheapest Bronze plan, you're going to struggle to get the same access and quality of care as someone who pays more for a mid-range Silver plan. That really shouldn't be a huge surprise to anyone.
I bought the absolute cheapest bronze plan and have had no insurance problems. All my docs, and a few new ones, have taken my BCBS exchange policy with zero problems. I'm sure somebody, somewhere has had an issue with a plan's network, but that's true of non-exchange plans as well and has nothing to do with the ACA. This is typical misleading, clickbait nonsense.
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« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2014, 02:17:29 PM »

Even those bronze plans and ones with narrow networks have very high premiums as well as deductibles. It is really not a good deal for a whole bunch of people.
Insurance is not supposed to be a good deal. It's not an invrstment. It's insurance. It's there to cover your Inks just in case something terrible happens.
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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2014, 09:26:47 AM »

Even those bronze plans and ones with narrow networks have very high premiums as well as deductibles. It is really not a good deal for a whole bunch of people.
Insurance is not supposed to be a good deal. It's not an invrstment. It's insurance. It's there to cover your Inks just in case something terrible happens.

And if you are having trouble finding a specialist to treat your cancer, it defeats the purpose.

Also, one can determine value in insurance. It actually is a great deal for those who are old, because their premiums are lower now. Not so much for Obama's base.
Obama's base is the working poor. They are getting enormous subsidies. It's an incredible deal for them. And despite the clickbait headline, I don't see any evidence here that people in exchange based plans have more difficulty finding docs than those with employer sponsered plans. These are the same private insurance plans that people get through their employers. Mine is with BlueCross. I doubt the doctor's office even knows that I bought mine on the exchange. There is, in fact, no such product as Obamacare.
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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2014, 03:28:25 PM »

I never said that all plans by one insurer have the same network. BlueCross of TN has several, and I believe all of them are available on the exchange. My point, and I don't think you get this, is that my network is shared with other insured people and not all of them bought their policies on the exchanges. There are people who have their policies sponsored by their employers who have the exact same network I do. There is no such thing as an Obamacare network. But even if there were, it would be incumbent on you to mathmatically demonstrate that the problems are substantially more severe than for the same population, many of whom had no legit insurance at all, before the ACA. Otherwise, your headline may as well say "Chinese people having trouble finding specialists." In some cases, it may be literally true because it's an issue for everybody, but there is a profoundly misleading issue of connectivity implied.
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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2014, 09:59:45 AM »
« Edited: July 20, 2014, 10:01:21 AM by memphis »

I never said that all plans by one insurer have the same network. BlueCross of TN has several, and I believe all of them are available on the exchange. My point, and I don't think you get this, is that my network is shared with other insured people and not all of them bought their policies on the exchanges. There are people who have their policies sponsored by their employers who have the exact same network I do. There is no such thing as an Obamacare network. But even if there were, it would be incumbent on you to mathmatically demonstrate that the problems are substantially more severe than for the same population, many of whom had no legit insurance at all, before the ACA. Otherwise, your headline may as well say "Chinese people having trouble finding specialists." In some cases, it may be literally true because it's an issue for everybody, but there is a profoundly misleading issue of connectivity implied.

Sigh. Some plans are narrow network and some are not. I don't understand why this is so hard for you to get, although I should not be surprised. Even BCBST, who you say is your insurer, has a P network and a S network.

And before you say both networks are available on the exchange, in order to get the better network one must pay more. My point is that even the cheapest plans on the exchange with the crappy network has a high premium and high deductible.
And this is different than employer sponsered plans because? Restrictive networks are an issue. I agree with you on that. My concern is that you are suggesting it's a problem primarily for the "Obamacare" crowd. Many employers also give a few options with different (subsidized) prices for insurance, even if they are within the same insurer. Before the exchanges were in operation, I had a policy that I bought individually and I also had to choose my network carefully then. What is the specific connection between the ACA and the network issue?  
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