Nathan vs Memphis

[memphis]

I just noticed this thread, and I just learned that I'm "pro-rape" You people are ridiculous.

[memphis]

As our President frequently says, Let me be clear. I do not in any way condone either rape or rapists. Suggesting otherwise is an extremely ugly allegation. Anybody who is serious about being "anti-rape" would by definition need to also be anti-religious. The power dynamic of religious authority leads to sexual exploitation more often than many of you are willing to believe. You literally know not what you do when defend the indefensible.

[memphis]

Are you suggesting people shouldn't be conscious of risks, sexual or otherwise, when venturing out into the world? I'm just trying to offer some pragmatic advice. The world can be a scary place. It's wise to exercise a reasonable degree of caution. I fail to see how that could be considered remotely offensive, unless one were deliberately trying very hard to be offended. Which I think a lot of posters routinely do.

[memphis]

It's worth mentioning that it's also incredibly disrespectful to rape victims to use them as pawns in one's unrelated sociopolitical fixations, as memphis does with his antireligious tendencies.

Not nearly as disrespectful of victims as it is of you to pretend that the nature of religious authority doesn't lend itself toward sexual abuse. You are mocking them and belittling the horror of their experiences every day you pretend this is not an issue.

[memphis]

It's worth mentioning that it's also incredibly disrespectful to rape victims to use them as pawns in one's unrelated sociopolitical fixations, as memphis does with his antireligious tendencies.

Not nearly as disrespectful of victims as it is of you to pretend that the nature of religious authority doesn't lend itself toward sexual abuse. You are mocking them and belittling the horror of their experiences every day you pretend this is not an issue.

...I just called for a purge of the Catholic clergy something like a week ago. As in I used the word 'purge'. Beyond that, the idea that 'the nature of religious authority' is a thing that exists in the sense of being both consistent across various religions and distinguishable from other types of authority is really weird, and is just a way for you to provide a fig leaf of pseudo-sociological quasi-legitimacy to your wildly arrogant and offensive assertion that the only way to be anti-rape is to share your exact religious beliefs. You're so transparent. Give it up.

I'm sorry you find the truth to be "weird." That's how things operate in the world outside your convent. I did applaud your call for a purge shortly after you made it, but, unfortunately, you then walked the statement back shortly thereafter. Oh, I also find your arguments wildly arrogant and offensive. Your attempted use of absurdly elaborate sentence structure and million dollar words to provide a fig leaf to your vapid, hollow arguments and faint victimization is completely asinine and self-indulgent. You never stand for anything except victimization. You're so transparent. Give it up.