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Junior Chimp
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« on: March 28, 2024, 01:16:29 PM »

She actually put a lot of effort into turning out voters in Florida's urban areas (especially South Florida), and she was also able to leverage her husband's ties to the state to her advantage. She did better than Obama in the urban areas of the state; it's the suburban/exurban areas (especially in and around I-4) that gave the state to Trump.
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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2024, 01:41:42 PM »

She actually put a lot of effort into turning out voters in Florida's urban areas (especially South Florida), and she was also able to leverage her husband's ties to the state to her advantage. She did better than Obama in the urban areas of the state; it's the suburban/exurban areas (especially in and around I-4) that gave the state to Trump.
Would she have won the state without the Comey letter?

You could argue either way. Exit polls showed that 11% of FL's electorate decided their votes in the final week before Election Day, and Trump won this group 55-38. On the other hand, I've heard political commentators say that Comey was at best "one of the factors" in late-breaking voters breaking for Trump.
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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2024, 10:56:11 PM »

She actually put a lot of effort into turning out voters in Florida's urban areas (especially South Florida), and she was also able to leverage her husband's ties to the state to her advantage. She did better than Obama in the urban areas of the state; it's the suburban/exurban areas (especially in and around I-4) that gave the state to Trump.
Would she have won the state without the Comey letter?

You could argue either way. Exit polls showed that 11% of FL's electorate decided their votes in the final week before Election Day, and Trump won this group 55-38. On the other hand, I've heard political commentators say that Comey was at best "one of the factors" in late-breaking voters breaking for Trump.
Hillary spent a lot of money in Ohio. Lots of campaign visits too. 2016 was the last 2000s era election where the key states were seen as Ohio and Florida.
She actually put a lot of effort into turning out voters in Florida's urban areas (especially South Florida), and she was also able to leverage her husband's ties to the state to her advantage. She did better than Obama in the urban areas of the state; it's the suburban/exurban areas (especially in and around I-4) that gave the state to Trump.
I remember watching CNN after the 2020 election. President Biden made enough gains in Florida's suburbs to have won the state had he matched Hillary's performance everywhere else. But Trump's unexpected gains more than cancelled them out, unlike the other swing states.

Florida is probably the one state where it being highly urban hurt Democrats in 2020 lol

Actually, in the suburban/exurban counties in the I-4 region (namely, Brevard, Citrus, Flagler, Hardee, Hernando, Highlands, Lake, Manatee, Marion, Pasco, Polk, Sarasota, Sumter, and Volusia Counties), Trump improved on his margins in terms of raw votes in 2020 compared to 2016 (Trump gained about 232K raw votes in these counties in 2016 and another 45K raw votes here in 2020). Thus, Biden failed to make a significant dent in Trump's margins in this region, which was another contributing factor to Trump's improved margins in the state (in fact, if margins in the suburban/exurban counties listed above had reverted to 2012 levels, Trump's 2020 margin of victory in FL would have been a bit narrower than his 2016 margin of victory).
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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2024, 08:42:05 PM »

She actually put a lot of effort into turning out voters in Florida's urban areas (especially South Florida), and she was also able to leverage her husband's ties to the state to her advantage. She did better than Obama in the urban areas of the state; it's the suburban/exurban areas (especially in and around I-4) that gave the state to Trump.
Would she have won the state without the Comey letter?

You could argue either way. Exit polls showed that 11% of FL's electorate decided their votes in the final week before Election Day, and Trump won this group 55-38. On the other hand, I've heard political commentators say that Comey was at best "one of the factors" in late-breaking voters breaking for Trump.
Hillary spent a lot of money in Ohio. Lots of campaign visits too. 2016 was the last 2000s era election where the key states were seen as Ohio and Florida.
She actually put a lot of effort into turning out voters in Florida's urban areas (especially South Florida), and she was also able to leverage her husband's ties to the state to her advantage. She did better than Obama in the urban areas of the state; it's the suburban/exurban areas (especially in and around I-4) that gave the state to Trump.
I remember watching CNN after the 2020 election. President Biden made enough gains in Florida's suburbs to have won the state had he matched Hillary's performance everywhere else. But Trump's unexpected gains more than cancelled them out, unlike the other swing states.

Florida is probably the one state where it being highly urban hurt Democrats in 2020 lol

Actually, in the suburban/exurban counties in the I-4 region (namely, Brevard, Citrus, Flagler, Hardee, Hernando, Highlands, Lake, Manatee, Marion, Pasco, Polk, Sarasota, Sumter, and Volusia Counties), Trump improved on his margins in terms of raw votes in 2020 compared to 2016 (Trump gained about 232K raw votes in these counties in 2016 and another 45K raw votes here in 2020). Thus, Biden failed to make a significant dent in Trump's margins in this region, which was another contributing factor to Trump's improved margins in the state (in fact, if margins in the suburban/exurban counties listed above had reverted to 2012 levels, Trump's 2020 margin of victory in FL would have been a bit narrower than his 2016 margin of victory).
Why did the I-4 suburbs swing towards Trump when suburbs across the nation went left?

These places are generally whiter and less educated overall, and Democrats have tanked in places with these characteristics recently. Here are a few examples:

FL Statewide - 52% Non-Hispanic White, 32% College Educated

Hernando County - 74% NHW, 20% CE
Marion County - 67% NHW, 22% CE
Pasco County - 69% NHW, 27% CE
Volusia County - 69% NHW, 26% CE

etc.

These places also have many transplants from the upper Midwest, so Trump's 2016 success in this region was, in retrospect, an early indication of his success in the Rust Belt.
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