Bruce Almighty (user search)
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
June 03, 2024, 10:12:28 AM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  General Politics
  U.S. General Discussion (Moderators: The Dowager Mod, Chancellor Tanterterg)
  Bruce Almighty (search mode)
Pages: [1]
Author Topic: Bruce Almighty  (Read 2286 times)
GOP = Terrorists
Progress
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,667


« on: November 28, 2005, 04:52:11 PM »

His daughter will be 18 next year.  I wonder if he has encouraged her to join up and go over and fight.  I bet not.
Logged
GOP = Terrorists
Progress
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,667


« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2005, 06:01:57 PM »

Women do not belong in the military, prude.

Yeah I got the feeling that you essentially belonged in Saudi Arabia from your women don't belong in congress crap. 

Couple questions:  Do you have a highschool diploma?  Do you have a bachelors degree?  Do you have graduate degree?  I'm going to guess that you never finished highschool and will eventually marry a woman whom you have no respect for and will have a miserable life because of it.

My woman can do anything I can do and surely more than you can.

PS I know a woman in Iraq right now.  A member of the national guard who is doing a million times more for the War effort that she doesn't even support than you ever have or ever will.  She wants to come home to her children and family.  How about you put your money where your mouth is and take her place? =)
Logged
GOP = Terrorists
Progress
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,667


« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2005, 06:12:25 PM »


Aww now I feel bad about commenting on a child's lack of education. =(

Maybe he will grow up and learn to respect women as our equals... But I doubt it.

Jake:  What else should women not be allowed to do?
Logged
GOP = Terrorists
Progress
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,667


« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2005, 06:50:53 PM »

What does this really have to do with his daughter? I mean if there was a draft going on I'd get your point but just because Bruce Willis supports the war doesn't mean his family does. Ashton Kutcher (Bruce's daughter's step father) is a flaming liberal so it could go either way.

If you notice I didn't comment on the daughter.  I commented on whether Bruce encouraged his daughter to join up and go fight the war.
Logged
GOP = Terrorists
Progress
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,667


« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2005, 06:57:54 PM »

What do these things have to do with education? My grandfather joined the Marine Corps. when he was 16 and was not racist nor was he sexist compared to the men in his age category.

Education has nothing to do with the military.  Two separate issues.  The education comments were linked to Jake's sexist comments about women not serving in congress and in the military.

The military comments were directed toward the fact that he says that women should not be allowed to serve their country while it would be IMPOSSIBLE to fight the war in Iraq without women.  I have no respect for chickenhawks but I have less respect for chickenhawks who want to prevent those who do want to serve from doing so.
Logged
GOP = Terrorists
Progress
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,667


« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2005, 07:22:14 PM »

Serve in the military is the biggest one, though I suppose according to situation, women could be barred from certain law enforcement positions for most of the same reasons. The Presidency should be a male job, simply because the effects of a female president would be a net negative, even without individual policies.

No women in the military, politics, or law enforcement.  Check.

What about religious leaders?
What about academic leaders?
What about business leaders?
What about medicine?
What about law?
What about atheletics?

Quote
You must be logged in to read this quote.

So you're saying that men are superior to women?

What happens if it is proven that you are inferior to a women in EVERY possible regard?  Will your life be worth living knowing that you are less than a woman?

Do your parents treat each other as equals?  Does your father abuse your mother?  Do you really want to spend the rest of your life with someone who isn't your equal?

To me it screams homosexuality when someone believes their sex superior to the opposite sex.

PS:  My girl (reading over my shoulder) says that her equal would be able to spell "embarrassment" correctly.  Though I can't spell either so I won't comment on that. =)
Logged
GOP = Terrorists
Progress
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,667


« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2005, 07:24:20 PM »

You seemed to indicate that there is a direct link between sexism and education. While it might have some impact on whether a person is sexist or not it certainly is not the only or even the biggest factor.

I would greatly disagree with that expecially from someone of Jake's generation.  Infact I'd wager dollars to doughnuts that Jake is or was homeschooled.  =)
Logged
GOP = Terrorists
Progress
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,667


« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2005, 07:29:37 PM »

Probably not, since it's a volunteer army and entirely her choice.  There's a difference between encouraging those who are fighting and encouraging others to fight.

Yep because attacking dissent is a lot easier than encouraging your child to do what you feel is the right thing to do.  If he hasn't encouraged his own child to put her life on the line than I see no reason why anyone should respect his call for others to have their lives put on the line for a lie.
Logged
GOP = Terrorists
Progress
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,667


« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2005, 07:39:58 PM »
« Edited: November 28, 2005, 07:43:09 PM by Progress »

You know I was homeschooled K-12. I have a 3.87 GPA. I was the Treasuer/Secretary of the College Republicans on my campus and I am the President of the Pre-Law Society on campus. And, I am not racist or sexist.
Well congrats on the GPA; got me beat my undergrad GPA was 3.8 flat though it was righted in grad school. =) May I ask where you go to university?  Where are you looking at law schools?  You didn't find it difficult to get into a major college without at least two years of formal schooling?  I'm a school teacher and get homeschool kids all the time in my AP classes who come in for 2 years just because no decent school will accept them without it.  A lot of them are very bright and very knowledgeable but almost universally lack any type of social skills and are often inculcated with beliefs straight out of the 13th century such as Jake's sexism though I guess even in the 13th century there were female heads of state...
Quote
You must be logged in to read this quote.
Not a stereotype at all.  Just personal experience dealing with two or three home schooled children every year who come in spouting the barefoot and cooking crap.
Logged
GOP = Terrorists
Progress
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,667


« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2005, 07:55:44 PM »

I don't necessarily read it that Willis is out encouraging others to join up; he's asking for a more positive interpretation of the troops, and I don't see any harm in that.
Comes off to me as "oh look Iraq is so great stop being critical of the war."  Though I fully admit I may be wrong here.
Quote
You must be logged in to read this quote.
It isn't a cheap shot.  What it is is asking someone who feels that the war in Iraq is a great thing to put their money where their mouth is.  My great grand parents encouraged my grand father to join up.  My grandfather encouraged my father and uncles to join up and fight in Vietnam.  If you believe in the cause you would encourage your children to support that cause.  It is no different than any other aspect of passing your values system on to your children.  Assuming there isn't an insane warmonger running the show I will encourage my children (both boys and girls =) to join the military because I feel it is the strongest way that a person can give back to their country.  I can't imagine someone who supports a cause so greatly yet won't encourage their own children to do so.
Quote
You must be logged in to read this quote.
Well I am all for showing the personal bravery of our troops yet to me it surely doesn't sound as if that is the mission.  To me it sounds like trying to justify an insane and illegal war.
Quote
You must be logged in to read this quote.
Well I doubt most of them thought they would be sent into a war of aggression against a country that was no threat to the United States.  But no I don't think you can really support military action in a country with a volunteer military without enlisting or encouraging your loved ones to do so when you are unable.  If you really think that the war in Iraq is protecting America and spreading freedom and democracy and you don't enlist what you are really saying is that while you agree with those lofty goals you are unwilling to personally sacrifice to see them achieved.  And to me that is the height of hypocrisy.
Logged
GOP = Terrorists
Progress
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,667


« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2005, 08:42:10 PM »

If his daughter is interested in joining, I'm sure he will support her.  I highly doubt he will push her to join though, just like my parents (or most parents) didn't.

Well it surely was instilled in me that if something is worth other people laying down their lives for it is worth me doing the same.

Looks like we are reading different articles then.

Actually I base my opinion on him standing on a USO stage in Tele'fur blaming everything on the "liberal media" at home.  Don't get me wrong I appreciate him coming out with his band and all that but to pretend that the reason guys are dieing is because people are back at home criticizing the war at a time when in reality there was ALMOST NO CRITIZISIM of the war?
Logged
GOP = Terrorists
Progress
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,667


« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2005, 12:43:04 AM »

"Peculiar thing back home is that the liberal media was trying to portray it as a bad war," said Willis, noting that with elections coming up, "obviously they (politicians) are trying to grind their axes, get elected and trying to portray the war as unpopular."

Quote
You must be logged in to read this quote.

Yep see you made the same logical fallicy that not supporting the war = not supporting the troops.  Additionally he made the logical fallicy that "the liberal media was trying to portray it as a bad war."  Anyone who seriously thinks there was even a balanced portrayal of the war before Katrina is delusional.  It was pro war up and down the cable channels.  Remember what happened to Donahue when he spoke against the war?

Quote
You must be logged in to read this quote.

Gephardt maybe.  Kerry definately.  But Joe is a true believer.  This is his war as much as anyone.
Logged
Pages: [1]  
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.042 seconds with 13 queries.