Are fat people (generally) to blame for being fat?

[opebo]

No, capitalism is to blame - which means, the owning class is to blame.  They have all the power, and everything which occurs occurs at their command.

[opebo]

No, capitalism is to blame - which means, the owning class is to blame.  They have all the power, and everything which occurs occurs at their command.

That would be more convincing if the "owning class" was universally thin.

No it wouldn't, that is irrelevant to my point. 

[opebo]

No, capitalism is to blame - which means, the owning class is to blame.  They have all the power, and everything which occurs occurs at their command.

This seems like a statement more befitting a religion than an ideology. 'Everything that happens happens because of really powerful invisible beings.'

Nobody said they were invisible, Vosem.  If you can elude their guards paparazzi-style, you might be able to glimpse them, and in many cases pictures of them do exist.

For example I remember when I used to live in Columbia Missouri in the 1990s, it was common knowledge that somewhere south of town, in immense compounds, resided (when not touring the Continent) some of the Walton barons.  I never saw them of course, but I do remember once or twice seeing sets of matching SUVs driving by in close order, (usually a string of 3 or 4), and people said 'that's one of them'.

[opebo]

It is in many ways a class issue. A Big Mac (for example) is generally cheaper than a salad.

McDonald's sells salads now. They aren't that much more expensive. (it's $1 to $2 difference, depending on where you are) However, $1 double cheeseburgers are definitely cheaper and the only thing that might qualify as a vegetable on it are pickles.

However, I think that even if the salads were sold for $1 most people would rather have the double cheeseburger.

People can't live on salads alone, there is very little food value in a salad.

[opebo]

I'm not implying the can or should. (though McDonald's salads usually have chicken or some other protein thrown in) I'm simply pointing out what people generally prefer. We're wired to like high-calorie foods.

Right, and I didn't mean to imply that was your position.  In fact a balanced diet with a good deal of high-calorie food is fine, along with vegetables, salads, etc., if the food is very high quality, served with red wine, and along with a moderately physically active and low-stress lifestyle (long lunches, no fear of being fired, adequate income).  Alas, none of these will ever be forthcoming for the american worker.

[opebo]

...I only have to work a few hours a month.

I don't care about your diet, your fat, or any of that, but how do you swing this?

[opebo]

...I only have to work a few hours a month.

I don't care about your diet, your fat, or any of that, but how do you swing this?

IIRC, he is a stand up comic.

And one that makes money at it?  Bizarre.  Can't be more than a few dozen of those in the entire country.

But what I can never fathom is this (and I speak as a man who just ate fast food - McDonalds) - how can anyone like it?  Its like eating cardboard.

I eat it once in a while on my 'farang food' weekends at the beach, as part of my 3-4 days a month when I don't eat spicy Thai food.  But I can't imagine anyone eating it regularly for any reason other than dire poverty.