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opebo
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« on: November 08, 2012, 01:35:50 PM »

Another way to phrase it is that racist whites (aka, 'pubbies' themselves) forced them into electoral college bankruptcy by alienating browns.
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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2012, 02:57:24 PM »

...it may be that if Hispanics don't move on up in Social Economic Status (SES) at a rather brisk pace, then the Pub malaise may be quite terminal - estan muertos.

I just came to precisely the same conclusion as the article you linked, in another thread: If we're speaking about Hispanics as a whole here, I really don't think they would identify with your agenda or philosophy - they're just too economically and socially disadvantaged.

What you have to do is let the Democrats win for 30-40 years, and, as they did in the 30s-70s, they'll make all these darker people solidly 'middle class'.  Then you can fool them with the Horatio Alger nonsense.
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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2012, 03:37:25 PM »

Perhaps the answer to the problems the GOP is facing could be running up margins with the whites, particularly blue collar whites who didn't show up to vote this time and who used to vote Democrat. There is no real reason why white working class would continue to vote for the Democrats in the next election.

Perhaps the GOP could forego NM, CO, FL and VA for a more populist message in PA, MI, WI and MN?
That would have to be a strong anti illegal immigration message.

I agree this will be their natural inclination - basically trying to apply the Mississippi/Louisiana situation to the US as a whole.  

However, it still puts them at a slight disadvantage if Georgia and Arizona begin to break lose (about as likely by 2020 as the GOP taking over Michigan, eh what?)



Even if the GOP could break lose the Dem hold on the 'rust belt' (or white working class belt) before they lose GA and AZ to swing status, it still leaves them somewhat behind (and that's not even mentioning that the upper midwest/PA will be losing electoral votes in 2020 while GA and AZ will be gaining):

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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2012, 04:32:08 PM »

Agree with you on Georgia, disagree on North Carolina, because the largest growing part of that state is in the Research Triangle, and it leans left

Exactly - NC has influx of whites.  GA influx of blacks.  The black vote will have to reach a much higher percentage in GA.  But we're on the way in both - GA currently only 55% white.. not that far to go..
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