McConnell laughs at Obama's fiscal cliff plan

[opebo]

The Obama administration will run American off this cliff out of overzealous idealism and a desire to see the Republicans get blamed for being immovable. This thing is, the Republicans are willing to make concessions if Obama is willing to be fair and do the same. Unfortunately, Obama's trying to push his luck.

Obama the candidate is turning back into Obama the president. Obama the president is much more of an unsavory character, but voters were tricked out of remembering that because he's good at campaigning.

But this behavior is precisely what we like, guys.  We want him to play hard ball, as hard as he possible can.  Your side needs to be destroyed as much as possible, and it is worth it to run off the cliff for that.

[opebo]

This should not be viewed as an ideological issue IMO. It is a pragmatic issue.

As Tweed ably points out above, Torie, this should precisely be an ideological issue, and is really not a practical issue at all - after all, the whole deficit plus much more generous benefits for working people could be fixed by simply reducing the privileges of your parasitic class, without in fact changing your leisured and plush lifestyle much at all.

Issues of power and control - the source of all your privilege - are ideological, not practical.  There is nothing 'practical' for the slave in being a slave.