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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
Inks.LWC
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« on: September 21, 2007, 12:09:37 AM »

The real problem here doesn't seem to be that the black students were charged with a crime, but that the white students weren't.  Is that accurate?

That's accurate, but I fully support the Jena 6 in their actions of beating tolerance into the racist's skull.  From what it sounds like, they are double-standard, seeing as they equated schoolyard bullying to attempted murder.

Kicking someone who is unconcious several times in the head goes a little bit beyond "schoolyard bullying."

But even aggravated 2nd degree battery (what the charge was reduced to) - requires a weapon.  And in LA, for 2nd degree battery, a minor can't be charged as an adult.

I think the blacks should be punished, but so should the whites - and this scum of a DA has to actually legitimately charge the blacks.  There's a post on my blog about this - which some guy keeps commenting on - and we've gone back and forth (inkslwc.wordpress.com).  He claimed that the battery charge was legit - but there was no weapon involved.
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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
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« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2007, 11:50:21 AM »

Did you read the article?  Most of it was not mentioned on CBS tonight (such as the racist remarks that caused the beating or that he went to a social function that night).  The problem at hand is the double standard in the justice system.

Contrary to what you clearly believe, saying something racially insensitive is not justification for aggravated assault.

Have to agree here.

They were charged w/ aggravated 2nd degree battery, which requires a weapon - no weapon was involved.
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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
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« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2007, 03:24:53 PM »

The kid got to go to a party the same day.  He's not scarred for life.
According to Wikipedia it was to get his class ring.

I believe wikipedia is right - I heard that on I think i twas CNN.  But that doesn't matter.  If he was so beat up, he'd have stayed in the hospital - or his parents would have interviened even if he wanted to leave (it would've been their choice).
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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
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E: 4.65, S: -2.78

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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2007, 03:41:42 PM »

the only person to do anything bad enough to deserve jail time here is the d.a.

No - b/c yo have to punish the blacks for beating up the kid too.  And anybody else who committeda crime here - that's where I end up disagreeing with a lot of civil rights activists - is whenever a travesty like this occurs, they think that the blacks should just get off the hook - but they committed a crime and still should pay.
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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
Inks.LWC
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E: 4.65, S: -2.78

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« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2007, 03:05:10 AM »

  But the double standard is not correctly resolved by letting the black kids off the hook too.
No, it's correctly resolved by actually bringing charges against the white kids, which is what should have happened in the first place.
There was the noose incident.  The school board screwed up and overruled the principal who wanted to give them a 3-day expulsion.  They instead were given 3 days, in-school detention.  There were a bunch of fights in the next days, so the school brought the DA in for an assembly, who told the students to cool it, that it wasn't going to a simple school matter and that fighting would be treated as a criminal offense.

I'm pretty sure they were suspended.
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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
Inks.LWC
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E: 4.65, S: -2.78

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« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2007, 06:36:36 PM »

the only person to do anything bad enough to deserve jail time here is the d.a.

No - b/c yo have to punish the blacks for beating up the kid too.  And anybody else who committeda crime here - that's where I end up disagreeing with a lot of civil rights activists - is whenever a travesty like this occurs, they think that the blacks should just get off the hook - but they committed a crime and still should pay.
Are you aware of the difference between "being punished" and "going to jail"?

I think people like Inks and SS would be willing to consider the alternative of lynching to going to jail.

WHAT!?  I don't want them to be lynched.  They should go to jail, but not for aggravated 2nd degree battery.
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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
Inks.LWC
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Posts: 35,011
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Political Matrix
E: 4.65, S: -2.78

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« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2007, 08:19:54 PM »

Ok - can we just like cut down on all the sarcasm/jokes/inside jokes - It's to the point that I can't follow 1/2 of the discussion anymore.
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