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angus
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« on: May 09, 2005, 11:48:40 PM »

I do not think people impose moral values for the sake of imposing moral values.  I think if you were king of the world you might abolish capital punishment.  I'd probably applaud you for it.  But others would say you're imposing your moral values for the sake of imposing your moral values.  Of course you'd know that this is utter bullsh**t, or gross oversimplification, at best.  I think you're smart enough to know that people do not impose their moral values for the sake of imposing their moral values.  I do agree that it is an imposition of moral values, but I think that those imposing them feel that the benefits of the imposition outweigh the disadvantages.  They feel that they are right, you could say.  This is the problem with moralism.  Whether that moralism manifests itself in the closing of strip clubs, the imposition of affirmative action, or the institution of socialized medicine, it is still moralism.  But I think you must admit that moralistic impulses, while perhaps misguided, aren't done just to piss the other side off.  But it does make the point that the Libertarians often make, which is that the Constitution does not justify the imposition of any moral values.  I guess what I'm saying is that I hope you remember your crass response when it is one of your moral values being imposed on the rest of us.
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angus
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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2005, 07:45:18 PM »

I don't disagree with your position.  Part of it's what Elazar called political culture, and I give nclib a hard because he comes to it from a position of moralism, but we all come to the same conclusion, which is that these laws are a bad idea.  on the other hand, I generally defer to the principle of local control, and they've decided.  call it republican, or libertarian, or whatever, but it's what Elazar called individualism, and that's my general overlap with you.  somehow you're more in touch with the wasp or yankee or many-generation angloamerican, but it's will of power is what I'd argue needs to be checked.  otherwise you really end up with laissez-faire practical economics.  lots of discontent.  which, in the abstract is okay if they're uninformed serfs.  but we aren't.
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angus
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« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2005, 09:31:18 AM »

Stripping is like waitressing. men need it, women enjoy it. so whats the problem.

oh yes...man upstairs has some doubts

not to mention the man next door!

this is why most strip clubs are in stand-alone buildings in shabby neighborhoods.  At least the ones I've visited were mostly in stand-alone buildings.
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