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Fmr President & Senator Polnut
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« on: March 07, 2016, 05:32:34 AM »
« edited: March 07, 2016, 05:43:40 AM by Fmr President & Senator Polnut »

It was one of the most tone-deaf things that Bernie said in the debate.

He misspoke, I think he was going overboard in trying to appease the identity politics left. It's a lose lose situation though as if he just talked about the poor he'd be accused of ignoring racial issues.

It might have been a misspeak, but it's a hell of a time to do it.

Actually IceSpear does kind of have a point. I have seen people here argue, for example, that the Democrats should abandon environmentalism in an effort to win West Virginia, which is incredibly ridiculous.

However, "Other people on Atlas are bigoted too!" isn't an excuse to be bigoted. Classism is a form of bigotry.

I think this absolutism is that biggest mistake. We're in a bad place, when the progressive movement demands purity and rejects nuance like so much of the right does.

The Democratic Party doesn't need to reject the policies on which it is now based, it shouldn't turn on environmentalism, social liberalism in order to placate people. But it doesn't mean that progressive politics cannot present real options to people in Appalachia etc who still deal with incredible poverty and lack of opportunities. Instead of people like Bill Maher saying that coal should die, there's no transitional plan to new industries or new careers. Yes, coal is not sustainable as the basis of a state's economy, and both Dem and GOPs are to blame for letting people think it will be.
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Fmr President & Senator Polnut
polnut
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Posts: 19,489
Australia


Political Matrix
E: -2.71, S: -5.22

« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2016, 07:12:21 PM »

Oh God, I hate these comments and the poor white-hating done.

Yes, absolutely.  This is plain ignorance.  This is why Democrats have no hope of winning West Virginia.  This is why Matt Bevin is governor of Kentucky.  This is what is the matter with Kansas.  This is why George W. Bush won in 2000.  

This forum is hilarious. How many different groups of people are constantly bashed here? Yet like clockwork, the second anyone takes aim at the hicks, droves of people start hyperventilating about how mean, insensitive, and cruel you are. lol

As for your post, GOOD! I don't want WV/KY in the Democratic coalition. Democrats being angst ridden about those places voting Republican is about as silly as if Republicans were angst ridden about not being able to appeal to socialists in Vermont or far left hippies in San Francisco. Oh wait, that wouldn't happen, since they're not retarded. If anything, bashing those places helps fire up their base and improve where they actually need to.

You Hillary supporters are working hard to shrink the party.

Can you not? We don't all think this way, at all.
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