2009 State and Federal elections in Germany

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Wow!

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What makes that seat so Green?

Not the Turkish community?

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www.election.de now estimates the following:



213 direct seats for CDU/CSU (127 of them are safe)
81 direct seats for SPD (15 of them are safe)

97 seats are currently toss-ups
60 seats are slightly leaning in one party's direction

Will be interesting if the districts of Freiburg and Leipzig-South go to the CDU as well ...

There's also the possibility that the states of Rheinland-Pfalz, Schleswig-Holstein and Mecklenburg-Vorpommern are becoming SPD-free in the first vote ...

Random question: why is southeast Lower Saxony so SPD? Continuation of Northern Hesse?

And I suppose those SPD districts around Bremen and on the coast up there are industrial centres, no?

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Why is the FDP polling so well?

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Alberta.

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Somebody please wake me up when the constituencies come in full. I have a map to do.

Which sites have results on them?

http://www.mdr.de/sachsen/wahlen/landtagswahl/ergebnisse
http://www.mdr.de/thueringen/wahlen/landtagswahl/ergebnisse
http://wahlarchiv.tagesschau.de/wahlen/2009-08-30-LT-DE-SL/index.shtml

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Can Bavaria invade Thuringia and Saxony?

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Green 51
FDP 46
SPD 46
Pirate 46
Linke 42
NPD 38
CDU/CSU 37
REP 31

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I'm holding out hope for CDU/FDP of course, as my preferred (and most realistic) option. A SPD/Green only would be nice, but not in the current circumstances and it's unlikely to get a majority, and I loathe a SPD/Linke/Green government. Urgh.

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Why do people dislike the Left so much? I know a lot of them are former communists, but they don't seriously advocate a return to that, do they? Wouldn't they be at least somewhat workable in a leftist coalition?

I have, well, serious ideological disagreements with them and being ex-communists doesn't exactly help them in my book.

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Minority governments are rather rare outside of Canada, thankfully.

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Random fact: In the last federal elections, the SPD won three of Munich's 25 boroughs. But they weren't the SPD strongholds. They were the Green strongholds. (There aren't any pronounced SPD strongholds in the city, really. These places had not only the Greens' three best results but also the CSU's three worst, and were all broadly speaking three way ties.)

Maps!

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Are there any blank+editable ward maps of Munich? I'm tempted to do a city map for 2005.

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Why don't you just help me push this thread to the next page instead?

I can help to this.

Here is.

By post-padding? Thanks, but no thanks.

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In case my question was buried by trolling and post-padding;

Are there any blank+editable ward maps of Munich? I'm tempted to do a city map for 2005.

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Should we do about results? Last time round we just did all that here, but the forum's changed since then in quite a few ways (more posters for international elections, tendency to spend longer discussing results in the weeks after an election, etc) and doing a results thread's been the norm. And we've just hit 59 pages.

A separate thread would be much better.

Anyways, Hashemite's Official Endorsement™: Pirate Party

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Yay, Bavaria. Bavaria's cool, I somehow like it.

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Just...

Just what?

The people in the silly costumes next to the CSU poster...

Bavarians always dress like that.

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It's bad for the SPD. It's probably bad for the Left. It's good for the CDU. It's good for the Greens. It may be good for really minor parties. Still, in broad terms it's better for the Right.

I assume it's also good for the FDP, no?

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Please, all results here:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=102862.0