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« on: March 06, 2013, 02:27:22 PM »

Over two hours now.

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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2013, 02:36:25 PM »

Rand Paul is currently juxtaposing indefinite detention of terrorists with the Nuremberg Laws.
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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2013, 04:38:19 PM »

"I frankly don't think [Obama will] be killing people in their homes tonight." - Senator Rand Paul

moderate hero traitor, HP
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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2013, 05:20:39 PM »

Rand Paul is currently juxtaposing indefinite detention of terrorists with the Nuremberg Laws.

This is obviously hyperbolic, but can we all agree that indefinite detention (of whomever) is something pretty awful?

Obviously, but it's still orders of magnitude less awful than the Nuremberg Laws...
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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2013, 06:34:15 PM »

It's impressive that he's still on topic (i.e. not reading from the phonebook).
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2013, 06:53:59 PM »

"I'm not so interested in putting her [Jane Fonda] on a drone kill list..." - Senator Rand Paul
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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2013, 07:27:41 PM »

hahah Ted Cruz reading tweets is awesome.
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« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2013, 11:08:26 PM »

Cruz is talking now and I have no idea what he's talking about.

Yes, that's generally Ted Cruz's M.O.
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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2013, 11:12:11 PM »

Something about Barry Goldwater looking down on them from Heaven and having faith in them??? He just used the word gestalt but I think he meant to use the word zeitgeist?? And in conclusion, Ted Cruz's question to Rand Paul is: "What, in your judgment, is America without liberty? What are we, if not a free people?"
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« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2013, 11:14:25 PM »

Oh jesus christ. Marco Rubio: "I didn't bring my Shakespeare books, so let me begin by quoting a modern poet, Whiz Khalifa."
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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2013, 11:17:43 PM »

Uh... is Rubio admitting that he and all the other Republicans (minus Paul) are hypocrites who wouldn't be up there right now if Bush were still in office?
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« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2013, 11:20:59 PM »

Ingredients of a Rubio senate speech:

One (1) Whiz Khalifa verse
One (1) Jay-Z verse
Three (3) Godfather quotes

Liberally douse with nonsensical BS, serve immediately.
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« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2013, 11:25:12 PM »

I like how all the possible 2016 contenders are now hopping on the Rand Paul train. Now Thune is speaking.
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« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2013, 11:54:33 PM »

Ugh, I hate to be a filibuster hipster, but I was really in to this thing when only the obscure Senators like Jerry Moran (don't worry, most people probably haven't heard of him) were taking part. But now it's just gone way too mainstream.
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« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2013, 12:13:19 AM »

Ted Cruz puts on the idiot act for the teabaggers, but it's pretty clear than Ron Johnson actually is an idiot.
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« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2013, 12:19:26 AM »

And now Tim Scott is helping Paul... I'm assuming he's just an Uncle Tom, right?

Tim Scott is definitely an Uncle Tom, but that has nothing to do with this filibuster speech.
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« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2013, 12:29:29 AM »

And now Tim Scott is helping Paul... I'm assuming he's just an Uncle Tom, right?

Tim Scott is definitely an Uncle Tom, but that has nothing to do with this filibuster speech.

Useful idiot seems to think that the reason this filibuster is being done is because of opposition to the President and Holder is because they are black.

You can't deny that the President's race is a contributing factor.

To Rand Paul's filibuster?  Hell no.  Look at Paul's civil rights record.  This has nothing to do with Obama being half Black.

Uh... Rand Paul's civil rights record is abhorrent. He thinks white-owned restaurants and hotels should be able to deny business to black people.
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« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2013, 12:53:00 AM »
« Edited: March 07, 2013, 12:55:47 AM by Lief »

Strom Thurmond, a true hero of the white supremacist movement, held it in for 24 hours! Rand Paul has cowardly given in to his bladder after just half that time. Disgusting.
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« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2013, 12:32:46 PM »

Thank (the Christian) God for that bloodthirsty old queen Lindsay Graham, fighting the good fight in the war on Rand Paul's war on war.

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« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2013, 02:03:36 PM »

Holder has answered Rand Paul's stupid unrealistic hypothetical:

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Hopefully this can end now.
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« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2013, 02:35:46 PM »

lol, awesome

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« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2013, 04:11:37 PM »

I can imagine if Dubya used drones, our leftist posters would scream bloody murder now Roll Eyes

You can imagine whatever you want, but you'd be wrong. There's absolutely no good reason to oppose the use of drones, unless you're a luddite who wants to put soldiers' lives at risk for no reason.
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« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2013, 08:11:16 PM »
« Edited: March 08, 2013, 08:13:07 PM by Lief »

I can imagine if Dubya used drones, our leftist posters would scream bloody murder now Roll Eyes

You can imagine whatever you want, but you'd be wrong. There's absolutely no good reason to oppose the use of drones, unless you're a luddite who wants to put soldiers' lives at risk for no reason.

But doesn't being an interventionist put soldiers' lives at risk for no reason?

How so? I support a very, very limited troop presence, only in situations (like killing OBL) where small groups of soldiers are absolutely necessary to carry out a mission. Otherwise, we should generally not be in the business of putting troops on the ground to kill terrorists or overthrow regimes. I think Obama's strategy in this regard has been very smart and very successful.

In a perfect world, we wouldn't need to be killing people overseas at all. But there are terrorist leaders living in the Middle-East who need to be stopped in some way, and drone strikes are the best way to do so while minimizing both American and civilian casualties (and hopefully technology can continue to advance to further minimize collateral damage and civilian deaths).

Also, with regards to the FY 2012 NDAA provision on indefinite detention of Americans that bedstuy and SJoyce are talking about, Obama in a signing statement said he didn't believe it was constitutional and his administration wouldn't use that power anyway.
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