The Present Israel-Palestine Conflict Thread

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Reminder that Israel is also murdering Palestinian civilians in the West Bank right now: http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/08/03/israel-shooting-deaths-after-west-bank-protest-0

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State Department tells Israel to stop attacking schools.



Pretty strong language, though regrettably just that.

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A country that is forcefully demilitarized is not a sovereign country. If you only support Palestinian statehood if said Palestinian state isn't allowed to have an army, then you don't actually support Palestinian statehood.

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Oh boo hoo. Quit your hand-wringing. Using the Holocaust as a justification for Israeli war crimes or ethnic cleansing in the West Bank is more offensive than anything Snowstalker has said. This constant lookout for opportunities to jump down on people, scream "anti-Semitism!!!" and shut down discussion is pathetic.

The "Palestinian Gandhi" thing is absolute nonsense. The Palestinians have peacefully protested, and when they do, they are ignored by international media or they are murdered or arrested by Israeli soldiers and then ignored by international media. The Israeli occupation is inherently violent. Colonizing another people's land is inherently violent. To turn the burden back on the oppressed people, telling them that they must peacefully resist while Israeli guns are aimed at them, when they cannot move around their own country freely, when any sort of resistance is met with gunfire from the IDF or from Israeli settlers, is disgusting.