Democratic Unity

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I won't be voting for a racist, status quo, center-right, pro-war candidate.

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Ugh. Sometimes I hate being so right.

Though I don't take this response as indicative of much else, I still can't help but ask: why?

Why would you refuse to support the winner of a primary that you, yourselves are competing to win? Surely there's more that's drawing you to the party besides Obama's magnetism? For instance: perhaps you share the same values that drew Obama himself to the party in the first place. Those values, incidently, are probably the same ones that drew Clinton to the party.

Also, what makes you think that a Clinton-lead Democratic Party would be so antithetical to your interests, values, and views than an Obama-lead one? Clinton and Obama have worked together on legislation and (despite the rhetoric) agree on most key issues, albeit differing on specifics. There's also more to the party than the position of the President. A Democrat in the White House means like-minded appointees to the Supreme Court, the rest of the justice system, hell, the entire bureaucracy! I admit that depending on the Republican candidate some right-leaning Dems might have a legitimate case for jumping ship, but Obama really isn't attracting those votes: he's a lefty. Presumably as supporters of a lefty, you don't want a party so captive to the right to retain power. I find it confusing, then, that you wouldn't go for Clinton considering your options.

Guess I just needed to vent.

Yes. I am hoping that we will go heavy (get behind our nominee) or go home (disband the Democratic Party machine and start from scratch by using leaders from outside of politics like Bloomberg, Gates, Damon, Wallis and other centrist to left-of-center captians of business, faith entertainment, technology and industry to re-start our party.)

That's going a little too far. We're just currently in a center-right political cycle, started by Reagan, after a nearly 50-year center-left cycle started by FDR. Eventually we'll swing left again, and the Democratic party (and a further left party at that) will regain dominance.

[Lief 🗽]

Ugh. Sometimes I hate being so right.

Though I don't take this response as indicative of much else, I still can't help but ask: why?

Why would you refuse to support the winner of a primary that you, yourselves are competing to win? Surely there's more that's drawing you to the party besides Obama's magnetism? For instance: perhaps you share the same values that drew Obama himself to the party in the first place. Those values, incidently, are probably the same ones that drew Clinton to the party.

Also, what makes you think that a Clinton-lead Democratic Party would be so antithetical to your interests, values, and views than an Obama-lead one? Clinton and Obama have worked together on legislation and (despite the rhetoric) agree on most key issues, albeit differing on specifics. There's also more to the party than the position of the President. A Democrat in the White House means like-minded appointees to the Supreme Court, the rest of the justice system, hell, the entire bureaucracy! I admit that depending on the Republican candidate some right-leaning Dems might have a legitimate case for jumping ship, but Obama really isn't attracting those votes: he's a lefty. Presumably as supporters of a lefty, you don't want a party so captive to the right to retain power. I find it confusing, then, that you wouldn't go for Clinton considering your options.

Guess I just needed to vent.

Yes. I am hoping that we will go heavy (get behind our nominee) or go home (disband the Democratic Party machine and start from scratch by using leaders from outside of politics like Bloomberg, Gates, Damon, Wallis and other centrist to left-of-center captians of business, faith entertainment, technology and industry to re-start our party.)

That's going a little too far. We're just currently in a center-right political cycle, started by Reagan, after a nearly 50-year center-left cycle started by FDR. Eventually we'll swing left again, and the Democratic party (and a further left party at that) will regain dominance.

Yeah. But we've been in this center-right cycle since Nixon, 40 years ago. When will the cycle go back and will it be soon enough? If we are destined to another 10 or more years of rightism in America, we would be best served by just sitting back and letting them fuc us up so we can say "I told you so". That's basically how the FDR thing started. If people don't listen, they should be punished by their own actions. It's actually a parenting method called "love and logic".

Nixon wasn't really a rightist. He was essentially a follower of Keynesian economics, like Democrats before him. Anyway, the way things are currently going, we're bound to be hit by a catastrophe sometime soon that will shift the country back left.

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Catastrophes seldom shift countries to the left.

The Great Depression certainly did. When something bad happens, people blame the people (and to a certain degree, the ideology espoused by those people) in power, and vote for the guys on the other side of the aisle.