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leecannon
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« on: May 03, 2024, 04:56:26 PM »

We’re not that loyal to him. It’s campaign 101 that an incumbent being primaried hurts the party in most cases. Biden is a competent president and there isn’t anyone stepping up to replace him.
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leecannon
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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2024, 05:54:11 PM »

I mean, voters don’t really have a choice but to be loyal or open the door back up to Trump.

But party powerbrokers absolutely failed by refusing to talk him out of seeking re-election. Biden is being popularly ridiculed in ways we haven’t seen since Bush 43, yet Democrats don’t seem to see it or care.

Bush still won re-election
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leecannon
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« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2024, 05:17:44 PM »

a majority consistently said they wanted "someone else" as the nominee through 2022-23. 

I guess those polls were wrong. Or else he reeled them back in somehow.

It’s more like no one else stepped up to replace him
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leecannon
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2024, 05:20:31 PM »

a majority consistently said they wanted "someone else" as the nominee through 2022-23. 

I guess those polls were wrong. Or else he reeled them back in somehow.

It’s more like no one else stepped up to replace him

An inoffensive generic D Congressman jumped into the race and barely got any votes. If the majority of Democrats wanted Biden to be replaced, Phillips would have had enough appeal to most of them that he would have gotten a whole lot more votes than he got.

It's not like Biden squeaked one out and then I'm saying "haha I guess those polls were WRONG after alll!!!1" If that had happened, sure maybe the polls were right but Phillips just didn't have quite enough appeal to tap into it. But given the margins, it's pretty clear that was nothing for Phillips to tap into in the first place.

Phillips is a three term congressman. He was never a serious challenger to Biden. If someone like a Senator or governor or just anyone who had the experience and capability to be president ran it would’ve been different. The majority of democrats wanted to replace Biden yes, but with someone better.

Phillips literally just went around saying he wasn’t Biden so hey that must be better right? He didn’t alter policy alternatives or a list of qualifications for the office, just that he was simply someone different
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