EP elections 2014 - Results Thread

[minionofmidas]

Counting pretty quick here and if the Frankfurt trends would translate to national results - but I guess they don't; there are a few relevant local factors after all - then the SPD should have a much better night, and the CDU a far worse, than what the exit polls show. As in, with a third of the city in the SPD is leading... and it's not that the Greens and Left are doing that badly, either. That shouldn't translate to that much of a CDU-CSU national lead, really.)

Just for hilarity, here's my precinct
turnout 383 voters or 30.3% (plus postal voters that is) of which one invalid
SPD 107 votes, Greens 84, CDU 75, Left 47, AfD 21, FDP 18, Pirates 14, PARTEI 10.

I'm one of the ten, dithered between that and Pirate. ZDF now says they may make it into the European Parliament. (Because noone can manage to spend the kind of money the EP pays its MPs in the long run, the PARTEI has nominated 60 candidates all promising to resign after a month. Gotta love national PR with no threshold. We'll get many, many joke MEPs from Germany this year.)

[minionofmidas]

Counting pretty quick here and if the Frankfurt trends would translate to national results - but I guess they don't; there are a few relevant local factors after all - then the SPD should have a much better night, and the CDU a far worse, than what the exit polls show. As in, with a third of the city in the SPD is leading... and it's not that the Greens and Left are doing that badly, either. That shouldn't translate to that much of a CDU-CSU national lead, really.)

Just for hilarity, here's my precinct
turnout 383 voters or 30.3% (plus postal voters that is) of which one invalid
SPD 107 votes, Greens 84, CDU 75, Left 47, AfD 21, FDP 18, Pirates 14, PARTEI 10.

I'm one of the ten, dithered between that and Pirate. ZDF now says they may make it into the European Parliament. (Because noone can manage to spend the kind of money the EP pays its MPs in the long run, the PARTEI has nominated 60 candidates all promising to resign after a month. Gotta love national PR with no threshold. We'll get many, many joke MEPs from Germany this year.)

NPD is apparently winning a seat too.

Would have been shocking if they hadn't. Under 0.5% would be phenomenal.

Only one would arguably be mildly surprising.

Found a precinct in Frankfurter Berg that reported 0 votes for AfD and 16 for PSG.
They were next to each other on the ballot paper; no cookies for guessing what happened here.

[minionofmidas]

Let's abolish democracy please.

What do you think that we have been doing these past years?

Oh, you meant abolish elections. Yeah, you're right, results are just embarassing, yet won't change anything anyways. Of course the case of the European Parliament is a particularly bad one.


Frankfurt has just four precincts out.

Offenbach is complete:
turnout 37.1 (+3.9)
SPD 27.5 (+6.9)
CDU 27.1 (-7.9)
Greens 14.8 (-2.8)
AfD 9.6
Left 8.6 (+2.9)
FDP 3.3 (-8.4)

So is Wiesbaden:
turnout 41.5 (+5.3)
CDU 29.9 (-6.7)
SPD 28-5 (+7.3)
Greens 15.0 (-2.9)
AfD 9.2
Left 5.8 (+1.8)
FDP 5.2 (-7.9)

And Kassel:
turnout 40.0 (+4.4)
SPD 29.7 (+3.6)
CDU 21.7 (-7.0)
Greens 19.2 (-3.4)
Left 11.0 (+4.4)
AfD 8.1
FDP 3.1 (-6.4)

So, we get the picture, do we?
Yet the national prognoses still show the CDU down 1.5 or so and the Left stable. I suppose I ought to go look for some East German partial results now. (Also, much of the country has local elections of some description or another today. Does someone have a list of which of these places had no local election in 2009? That can cause differential turnout you know...)

edit: Darmstadt
turnout 48.4 (-0.5)
SPD 26.5 (+5.0)
Greens 22.6 (-4.9)
CDU 22.5 (-4.7)
Left 8.5 (+3.3)
AfD 6.8
FDP 3.9 (-6.8)
Darmstadt, of course, has a green-black (as opposed to black-green) administration.

[minionofmidas]

Yet the national prognoses still show the CDU down 1.5 or so and the Left stable. I suppose I ought to go look for some East German partial results now.

Indeed I should.

Brandenburg state, 89% counted (no idea whether comparison is with same 89 or with total result)

turnout 41.6 (+11.7)
SPD 26.9 (+4.1)
CDU 25.4 (+2.9)
Left 19.5 (-6.5)

Ahem.

AfD 8.4
Greens 5.9 (-2.4)

FDP in 8th place behind NPD and, lmao, the Familienpartei.

[minionofmidas]

Saxony, and now I'm definitely comparing with the 2009 overall result even though I suppose the 60-odd municipalities missing probably include the big cities

turnout 50.8 (+3.2). They had local elections both times, you see.
CDU 37.9 (+2.6)
Left 17.4 (-2.7)
SPD 14.2 (+2.5)
AfD 10.5
NPD 4.0 (did not run last time, but REP are at 0.5 vs 2.6 in 2009)
Greens 3.8 (-2.9)
FDP 2.7 (-7.1)

[minionofmidas]

Frankfurt
turnout 44.5 (+5.6)
SPD 26.5 (+7.
CDU 25.6 (-5.3)
Greens 18.9 (-4.2)
Left 8.4 (+2.3)
AfD 8.0
FDP 5.6 (-8.4)

Pirates 2.0
Tierschutzpartei 1.1
PARTEI 1.1
FW 0.6
NPD 0.5
REP 0.4
etc pp

[minionofmidas]

Le Pen speaking...

She can't be. Speaking requires thought.

She's well capable of it.

That's part of the problem.

[minionofmidas]

Quick map.

[minionofmidas]

Die PARTEI won a seat!

....what?

Voting for a joke party is the most stupid thing anyone can do.

Voting for Die PARTEI effectively reduced the chance of the NPD winning a second seat.

In any case, PARTEI leader Martin Sonneborn has announced that the'yre going to keep their campaign promise of resigning their seat every 30 days, so that any of the 60 PARTEI candidates on their list gets a chance to serve for a month in the European Parliament. Sonneborn said he's gonna use his 30 days to prepare himself for his impending resignation.

...which makes sense financially as well. Everyone of them is going to draw 8000 Euros a month for six months after their one month term...
Of course, I see no valid definition of "joke party" that applies to the PARTEI but not to any of the multi-seat parties. As Sonneborn himself rightly said, "I don't think we're the craziest outfit to win a seat today."

Anyways, because no one else cares:

7 small parties won a seat each: FW 1.46%, Pirates 1.45%, Animal Protection 1.2%, NPD 1.0%, Families 0.7%, ödp 0.631%, PARTEI 0.629%. The largest party to miss out was REPs at 0.37%. So, the minimum no. of votes needed to gain a seat fell right into a natural break in the vote distribution: The PARTEI's seat was the 81st to be distributed (of 96), the REPs' turn wouldn't have come til no.130.
However, FW and Pirates missed out on a second seat quite narrowly : FW's would have been 101st, Pirates' 103rd. So the other party I was mulling a vote for was actually closer to a relevant threshold than the PARTEI.

[minionofmidas]

Presumably the precinct also includes a residential area somewhere along its northern boundary.

[minionofmidas]

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Non-satirical? Not exactly...

[minionofmidas]

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Non-satirical? Not exactly...

Why not exactly? At best it's only mildly satirical.

The parts of this FB post which could be interpreted as satirical are the very first sentence and restating their goal of "Inhalte überwinden".

As for the first sentence which claims that they have received offers from those three groups to join them, I wouldn't rule out the possibility Sonneborn had some unofficial chats with people from these parties regarding a possible group membership. To my knowledge, it has at the very least been semi-seriously discussed within the Green ranks whether Sonneborn could eventually join their group. So, while the first sentence is probably an exaggeration, it's not entirely untrue either.

As for restating their goal of "Inhalte überwinden"... they put a smiley behind it, implying that they're not fully serious about that goal either anymore.

While it's a much milder form of satire than the usual PARTEI style, really the one entirely serious note here is point 5 (oh, and the explanatory second sentence of point 7).

[minionofmidas]

Re PARTEI

http://www.taz.de/Martin-Sonneborn-ueber-seinen-neuen-Job/!141709/