DeSantis bans lab grown meat in Florida (user search)
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
June 01, 2024, 02:10:39 AM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  General Politics
  U.S. General Discussion (Moderators: The Dowager Mod, Chancellor Tanterterg)
  DeSantis bans lab grown meat in Florida (search mode)
Pages: [1]
Author Topic: DeSantis bans lab grown meat in Florida  (Read 1500 times)
lfromnj
Atlas Politician
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 19,610


« on: May 01, 2024, 07:45:28 PM »


Presumably a lab-grown meat company will sue and this law will be overturned, but given how much right-wing brain rot has crept into the judiciary lately, who knows?

Obviously this law is super dumb but what's the argument of this law being unconstitutional?
There might be some commerce clause stuff but even that seems beyond the reach of it.
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/23721488/prop-12-scotus-pork-pigs-factory-farming-california-bacon

There was also this case last year.
Logged
lfromnj
Atlas Politician
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 19,610


« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2024, 01:46:14 PM »

This is overreach and should be struck down. Even products that present real health risks (cigarettes, alcohol) cannot be banned so it's hard to see how lab grown meat being banned stands up.

Yeh, came here to say I don't see how this survives a court challenge.

What's the legal basis for the law? Virtue Signaling To Your Base is not a reason any rational jurist is going to accept for outlawing some private company growing meat in a lab and selling it to private citizens on the free market.

What's there to challenge? Conservative judges believe that (red) states have the right to ban any and all behavior that conservatives don't like.

The sudden realization by liberals that government is not allowed to regulate food of all things appears quite ridiculous, LOL

Banning random, irrelevant stuff purely because conservative commentators don't like it isn't a regulation I respect. He even admitted in his stupid Twitter public statement that this is being done because he thinks Jews are going to make him eat bugs.

You don't have to respect it and neither do I, you still have to craft an argument for why its unconstitutional.
Logged
lfromnj
Atlas Politician
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 19,610


« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2024, 02:03:08 PM »

This is overreach and should be struck down. Even products that present real health risks (cigarettes, alcohol) cannot be banned so it's hard to see how lab grown meat being banned stands up.

Yeh, came here to say I don't see how this survives a court challenge.

What's the legal basis for the law? Virtue Signaling To Your Base is not a reason any rational jurist is going to accept for outlawing some private company growing meat in a lab and selling it to private citizens on the free market.

What's there to challenge? Conservative judges believe that (red) states have the right to ban any and all behavior that conservatives don't like.

The sudden realization by liberals that government is not allowed to regulate food of all things appears quite ridiculous, LOL

Banning random, irrelevant stuff purely because conservative commentators don't like it isn't a regulation I respect. He even admitted in his stupid Twitter public statement that this is being done because he thinks Jews are going to make him eat bugs.

You don't have to respect it and neither do I, you still have to craft an argument for why its unconstitutional.

"Craft an argument for why it's unconstitutional" lmao. That is not how the law works. Other way around.
Florida's lawyers will now get to waste time and taxpayer money showing in court what government interest they think is served by banning this, only to be slapped down immediately.
It's one thing to ban cigarettes. It's another thing to ban FDA approved food products.



They find it unethical just like California voters found crowded pig farms unethical
They want to protect farmers.

All these reasons are poor reasons but certainly not poor enough for the courts to interfere in the law of a state.
Logged
lfromnj
Atlas Politician
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 19,610


« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2024, 02:09:01 PM »

This is overreach and should be struck down. Even products that present real health risks (cigarettes, alcohol) cannot be banned so it's hard to see how lab grown meat being banned stands up.

Yeh, came here to say I don't see how this survives a court challenge.

What's the legal basis for the law? Virtue Signaling To Your Base is not a reason any rational jurist is going to accept for outlawing some private company growing meat in a lab and selling it to private citizens on the free market.

What's there to challenge? Conservative judges believe that (red) states have the right to ban any and all behavior that conservatives don't like.

The sudden realization by liberals that government is not allowed to regulate food of all things appears quite ridiculous, LOL

But there’s no rational explanation for this specific regulation. “Some people don’t like it and think it’s icky” is not a good reason to ban it.

There is no rational reason for very many regulations, especially in the agriculture sector.  This rule is more about protecting Florida's poultry and seafood industries than anything else.

So why haven't they banned meat from other states?


That would  violate interstate commerce/maybe priveleges so it would be unconstitutional. However as long as the regulation is evenly applied in state or outstate like California's prop 12 then I don't see the legal issue with this law.
Logged
lfromnj
Atlas Politician
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 19,610


« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2024, 02:09:48 PM »

This is overreach and should be struck down. Even products that present real health risks (cigarettes, alcohol) cannot be banned so it's hard to see how lab grown meat being banned stands up.

Yeh, came here to say I don't see how this survives a court challenge.

What's the legal basis for the law? Virtue Signaling To Your Base is not a reason any rational jurist is going to accept for outlawing some private company growing meat in a lab and selling it to private citizens on the free market.

What's there to challenge? Conservative judges believe that (red) states have the right to ban any and all behavior that conservatives don't like.

The sudden realization by liberals that government is not allowed to regulate food of all things appears quite ridiculous, LOL

But there’s no rational explanation for this specific regulation. “Some people don’t like it and think it’s icky” is not a good reason to ban it.

But that's exactly what California voters did with pork regulations. States also ban dog meat for the same reason .
Logged
Pages: [1]  
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.031 seconds with 12 queries.