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Question: If you were in Congress in 2009/10
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Person Man
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« on: January 08, 2017, 09:18:56 AM »


I'll tell you a sad little story. In the 1980's, Canada's abortion laws were struck down. An attempt was made to craft a new law in conformance with the Supreme Court's ruling, but it was defeated by a coalition of pro-choicers and pro-lifers who thought the law wasn't strict enough. No abortion law was ever passed and Canada has zero restriction on abortion.

In short, don't make perfect the enemy of the good.

I believe a fight for public option would've resulted in an universal healthcare system be put full on in the spotlight, and I do believe, that people would've supported it, if democrats remained commited to fighting for it, not a half assed solution for blue dogs, which should GTFO, the party, if they didn't support such law.

The passing of half-based solution, allows Trump, to say he'll repeal and replace obamacare, aka, have an even sh**tty one in place.

The abortion situation in Canada is very sad, though I believe these are two different issues.

Short Term Pain, for Long Term Gain
I can see a parallel between Canada and Abortion and the US and Health Care. There have been at least 7 opportunities for HCR in the US since it became an issue 100 years ago. One of those times we got Medicare(aid), the next we got what we have today. Your abortion parable is pretty closely describes what happened under Clinton.
The Anti-Public Option Democrats still lost. Half measures and moving to the center don't work.
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Person Man
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2017, 10:41:52 AM »

I am guessing the only replacement is just making it like it was and  that you not pay taxes on money you save for medical treatments and also that WalMart can sell you discount plans as insurance.
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« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2017, 07:51:15 AM »
« Edited: January 13, 2017, 07:54:51 AM by Special Boy »

If it does get repealed, does Fee For Service become the Social Security and Roe vs. Wade (the two biggest things on the left) for Republicans? It seems that Fee For Service and the War on Drugs are the right's two biggest sacred cows that no one can touch and are considered an integral part of the American social contract had down by Moses himself.

I actually told my ex-MiL this ten years ago. She didn't believe me.
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