Nomination Thread: Peter for HAEV [confirmed]

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I ask your opinion of my personal assessment of what "zombies" are.

Unfortunately I take issue with a great deal of your list.

The facts are the facts. These people contribute nothing yet have the same vote as you and I.

Okay I didn't really want to do this because there's the possibility something concerning zombies could come before the court because of HAEV and all that nonsense, but taking a liberal interpretation of that basically means I can't comment on anything, so let me just explain why I think alot of this list is ridiculous.

In our statute, we deal with activity requirements for voting in elections with this language:

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Now, it's actually 25 now because of a bill from Hashemite that I supported, but stay with me. When it says "who have posted at least 15 times" it is referring to the Atlas forum at-large. These are the sort of activity requirements that we deal with. The same is upheld in various office-holding rules (I believe it's like 200 or something to be a Senator now?) for post counts, the posts in the at-large forum.

Here are the three criteria for how I judge (personally, not officially) a "zombie" with some exceptions.

Someone who doesn't post on the forum at-large or exclusively posts in Atlasia (or it seems like they were recruited for the sole purpose of participating in Atlasia).

Someone who is not an established member of Atlasia (meaning, someone you can point out in a crowd of Atlas members).

Someone who doesn't post intelligently, causes trouble, etc.

People like BRTD, Smash, phknrocket1k, Boris, CultureKing, Eraser, Gustaf, Torie (Seriously? Torie is a zombie to you?), Ronnie, Dead0man, etc, do not qualify in my humble opinion. They have a long history in Atlasia, the Atlas forum in general for the most part, are well established members, post often on the Atlas forum at large, and many of the people on your list are former office-holders for heaven's sake.

Not longer than earlier this year, CultureKing was my Governor! Torie was once my Senator for two terms! Obviously these are not exemptions on their own, but they are, in combination with other factors, evidence that they are not zombies. They don't not post (grammar attack) on the forum at large, they don't cause trouble or get in trouble alot, they weren't recruited to Atlas simply for the purpose of participating in this silly little game, they have a long history and have established themselves on this site.

People like azmagic, dallasfan, Elvis Republican, etc, well, they're kind of stupid honestly, to be a little harsh about it. They post on the forum at large to maintain the bare minimum, they have extremely low total post counts, almost no one knows who the hell they are, they seem like the type of person who was recruited simply to be used in Atlasia, the list goes on. Those are classic zombie qualifiers.

We could get into arguments too over more complicated shades. People who cause trouble and obsessively participate in Atlasia. But that's an argument for another day. For now, this is about the inactive type of zombie/tool. If anyone wanted my philosophy on zombies, I supposed that's as detailed as I can think to be on the topic.

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Are newer members with low post counts 'zombies'?

On that qualifier alone, no. If they make little to no effort to post on the forum at-large, it seems like they were recruited solely for the purpose of participating in Atlasia, or they're like ECR, then perhaps.

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Again, it depends. These are complicated issues that necessitate more than just one qualifier.

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Are newer members with low post counts 'zombies'?

On that qualifier alone, no. If they make little to no effort to post on the forum at-large, it seems like they were recruited solely for the purpose of participating in Atlasia, or they're like ECR, then perhaps.

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Again, it depends. These are complicated issues that necessitate more than just one qualifier.

Yeah, of course, its all going to be arbitrary and politically-motivated. That's how inquisitions work, from Torquemada to Joe McCarthy.

They're complicated issues that require a case-by-case analysis. That's the point of HAEV to begin with. You can't just pick one group and vaporize them.

Are newer members with low post counts 'zombies'?

On that qualifier alone, no. If they make little to no effort to post on the forum at-large, it seems like they were recruited solely for the purpose of participating in Atlasia, or they're like ECR, then perhaps.

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Again, it depends. These are complicated issues that necessitate more than just one qualifier.

Oh, wow, I thought this thread was "Nomination Thread: Peter for HAEV."

When you stalk me all over the forum I tend to think you're responding to me. My apologies.

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It's maddening how you've managed to turn three threads designed to gauging nominees into a bitchfest.