SENATE BILL: Do Not PM List Act (Law'd)

[Marokai Backbeat]

I really don't see the point of this. What was wrong with deregistration exactly? I feel like someone said it was a bad idea and overnight everyone changed their minds on it and we all moved on without any argument. This is certainly not a decent substitute. If someone really doesn't want to be involved in Atlasia again are they really going to have a breakdown if PM'ed once or twice before they fall off the rolls? Bgwah's objections to this thing are on the money.

[Marokai Backbeat]

I really don't see the point of this. What was wrong with deregistration exactly? I feel like someone said it was a bad idea and overnight everyone changed their minds on it and we all moved on without any argument. This is certainly not a decent substitute. If someone really doesn't want to be involved in Atlasia again are they really going to have a breakdown if PM'ed once or twice before they fall off the rolls? Bgwah's objections to this thing are on the money.

our RG said if we passed a deregistration bill he would resign. the problem as I understand it is that it is supposed to be impossible to keep track of changes in status that occurred before a person was deregistered when the person decided to register again, so you could have people deregistering and then registering again so that they could change regions or escape penalties. however I do not know if actually this problem is insurmountable or not.

Good Lord almighty, that is what halted a deregistration bill? Just write around that requiring a cooldown period before reregistration, or make all current restrictions continue to apply regardless of registration status. Why wouldn't they? There's only one legal hiccup I see and it can easily be argued around.

And to be frank, though I love Hans, if you have an official who refuses to actually do what is asked of him because he just doesn't feel like doing it, you get a new official. There's honestly not that much work to the RG position to begin with. I know it's not "nice" but it gets the job done.

This current bill lacks any point unless you put some force into it. As in "if anyone on the do-not-PM list receives a PM with the intent to sway the individual to vote or vote for a specific candidate, the sender shall be banned from voting in said election" or something. Otherwise this is just make-work that has no teeth.

[Marokai Backbeat]

I'm actually having to agree with Marokai here. We're creating a list of people who don't want to be bothered. Yet there is no sort of enforcement to make sure those people are bothered. All this piece of legislation does is ask Atlasians not to message those people. Consequences? Nada.

The problem with that is that I doubt you'll get many people on your side since that could potentially hurt PMing GOTV efforts. Though yes, if this is going to be done, that's the only way to make it worthwhile.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Meh. This has no teeth and subsequently is entirely useless. This is really the only alternative we have to formalized deregistration? The "We Would Appreciate it if You Don't PM These People" list?

[Marokai Backbeat]

Meh. This has no teeth and subsequently is entirely useless. This is really the only alternative we have to formalized deregistration? The "We Would Appreciate it if You Don't PM These People" list?

I doubt this assault on freedom of speech could hold up in court anyway.

Oh I don't think I'd go that far. It's probably the fact that there's no teeth to this at all that it would hold up in court since there's no actual penalty.

Although, I think even if it had a penalty, you could lump it in to election-related political advertising bans that already exists in the voting booth specifically. If one argued that a PM-ban is unconstitutional because it infringes on free speech, you're just a hop skip and jump away from saying that bans on political campaigning in the voting booth are also unconstitutional.

Then again, the law is as the Justices make it. It's really all up to whatever Opebo and Ebowed decide.