SENATE STANDING COMMITTEE: Judiciary (Check and Balances Amendment)

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Yeah, I'd like my impeachment proceedings to go first.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Procedure doesn't seem to be clear on that, but do you wish to proceed one after each other (which would take 3 weeks), or doing the three impeachment proceedings concurrently?

If option 1, by which Justice do you want us to begin?

Begin concurrently.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

My case for impeaching the three Justices is simple.  Through unnecessary delays on an issue of Constitutional importance, and through their inappropriate political activities, these Justices have lost the right to serve on this Court.  In order for the Court to maintain its place in Atlasian government, we need to remove these Justices and move on.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Kal, two things.  One, I am more than content to be persuaded out of voting against all three Justices; indeed, I do currently lean against impeaching the Chief Justice, and only slightly lean towards impeaching Justice Bgwah.  I introduced all three articles because I can see a case for any of the three, so I introduced the articles.  As to the political aspect, while there may not be a law, it's a fairly commonsense proposition.  Justices Bgwah and Opebo have involved themselves in political debates, and taken harsh tones far beyond what is appropriate for members of the Court.

As to your other point, Kal: I don't believe that this process will impact consideration of the Tenure Amendment that we are co-sponsoring.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

You're expected to abstain from personal attacks, from insulting your opponents for attempting to "politicize" the Court, and Bgwah was actively involved in the debate over the legalization of eating dogs.  That's unacceptable, and it's inappropriate.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

You're merely loading on your personal petty tastes and resentments as if they were some constitutionally stipulated criteria - they're not.

That's where you'r wrong, Opebo.  I am not making a personal crusade out of this.  Although this is, in fact, an example of what is wrong with your style, an why impeachment is a valid option.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Sorry all, having trouble finding direct quotes.  For "unnecessary delays", I'll point to the most recent case, which we all agree was delayed more than it should have been.  I can't find any activity by the Chief Justice that is sufficiently concerning in this area, and I will readily admit that I think there aren't sufficient grounds to impeach him, as far as I am concerned.  For Justice Bgwah, his comments in the debate over decriminalization of dog meat, and all subsequent debates on the issue, simply stretch beyond what is acceptable.  Likewise, the comments Justice Opebo has made towards other Atlasians, denigrating them and using personal attacks, is unacceptable behavior for someone of his stature and position.  As I find quotes I'll post them, but I wanted to give an overall look at my arguments.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

It is regrettable that the Senator wishes to waste everybody's time over what appears to be a personal vendetta.  Frankly it is unacceptable behavior for someone of his stature and position.

  There's no vendetta, Mr. Chief Justice.  I am not the only one who's voiced concerns, nor have I based my case for impeachment entirely around the delays; it was merely on point worth mentioning.  The case is built more around the inappropriate participation in political debates by other members of this Court.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

NAY on the impeachment of Chief Justice Ebowed

AYE on the impeachment of Justice Opebo

AYE on the impeachment of Justice Bgwah

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Ben is quite away since a moment

[Kaine for Senate '18]

I'm a co-sponsor of Kal's amendment, so I'd like to see it considered first.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

On the principle of juridicial tenure:  NO
On the lenght of a term: 1 YEAR
Renewable: NO

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Committees should remain part of the process.