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Kaine for Senate '18
benconstine
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« on: August 14, 2008, 03:41:14 PM »

This will serve as the official thread for the P4E+P scenario that I have created; it is just the 2008 scenario, but witn Atlas people instead of real candidates (VP candidates remain the same).

I'll need the following information for everyone:
Basic Information:
Title:
First name:
Last name:
Party:
Age:
Gender:
PIP:
Home region:
Starting funds:
Primaries description:
General description:
How well known:
How well established:
Percentage goal:
Seats goal:

Attributes: (28 total points allowed, 1-5)Sad
Leadership:
Integrity:
Experience:
Issue Familiarity:
Charisma:
Stamina:
Debating:
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Kaine for Senate '18
benconstine
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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2008, 07:11:12 PM »

Guys, PIP is Political Influence Points, which help you gain endorsements.  You can have between 1-500 PIP's.
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Kaine for Senate '18
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2008, 04:05:26 PM »

Sounds like fun Smiley. What scenario are you using though Ben? If you want a 2008 scenario, inclusive of the Democratic, Republican, Independent, Independent Nader, Green and Libertarian Parties, then I can send it to you. It might be on the 80soft scenarios page or on their forum, so I will have to check.

If you could send it, that would be great Smiley
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Kaine for Senate '18
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2008, 09:13:22 PM »

NDN - I'm using the 2008 scenario, so some of your platform issues aren't in my version.  These are the issues, and choices:

Abortion
Far-Left: Full reproductive rights for women! Only appoint pro-choice judges to Supreme Court and extend abortion rights!
Left: Keep abortion as it is presently. Safe, legal, and rare. Keep partial-birth abortion legal.
Center-Left: Protect responsible choice. Ban partial-birth abortions except in the case of life of the mother.
Center: Abortion is not an issue for government intrusion. Oppose government control over abortion. Leave it to the states.
Center-Right: Some restrictions on abortion. Allow abortions in cases of rape, incest, or life of the mother. Ban partial birth abortions.
Right: Only allow abortion in cases where the mother's life is at risk. Ban partial-birth abortion.
Far-Right: Abortion is murder! Total ban on abortions.

Balanced Budget
Far-Left: A deficit and debt is fine.  Focus on social programs and how the government can better people's lives.
Left: Increase government spending on social programs, a deficit is acceptable.
Center-Left: Focus on real priorities. More funds for military and social programs.
Center: Balance lowering the deficit with other priorities. No long-term deficits.
Center-Right: We need to curb spending in order to balance the budget. Respect taxpayers' dollars.
Right: A large decrease in federal spending. A Balanced Budget Amendment to ensure responsible fiscal management.
Far-Right: We need to eliminate all debt as quickly as possible. Outlaw deficit spending with a Balanced Budget Amendment.

Business Tax
Far-Left: Significantly increase business taxation.
Left: Moderate increase in business taxes.
Center-Left: Small increase in business taxation.
Center: Businesses are taxed the right amount.
Center-Right: Reduce taxes for small businesses.
Right: Moderate decrease in business taxation.
Far-Right: Significantly decrease business taxation.

Education
Far-Left: Completely public school system run by the state. Massive increase to funding.
Left: No school vouchers, large increase to federal funding. Modernize school system with more after-school programs.
Center-Left: Support our public school system. Private school vouchers drain resources from public schools. Increase funding.
Center: Support public school system but allow room for vouchers.
Center-Right: School vouchers for lower-income students. Privatize failing schools. Charter schools provide competition.
Right: Support school vouchers and charter schools. Reduce federal government's role in education.
Far-Right: School vouchers for anyone. Get the federal government out of education completely!

Energy
Far-Left: Renewable energy all the way! Ban all polluting forms of energy like oil and coal.
Left: Move towards energy independence focusing mostly on renewable energy sources. Subsidize clean energy.
Center-Left: Invest in clean energy and end oil company subsidies. Cut oil use significantly by 2025.
Center: Renewable and non-renewable energy must be equally researched.
Center-Right: Reduce dependence on foreign sources of oil. Some research on alternate energy sources.
Right: Coal and oil are our main concerns right now. End dependence on foreign energy. Let private funds research other energy.
Far-Right: We don't need to worry about renewable energy sources. Oil is king!

Environment
Far-Left: The environment should be our first national priority. Expand National Park System. Large government programs.
Left: The environment and global warming is a major concern. Ratify Kyoto. Increase environmental regulations and pollution cleanup.
Center-Left: We need to leave a healthy environment for our children. Work to reduce emissions and harmful toxins. Modified Kyoto.
Center: Balance environmental policies with sound economic policies.
Center-Right: The environment is important. Find market based solutions to environmental problems.
Right: Economic policies and priorities take precedence over environmental concerns.
Far-Right: The environment is fine.  We don't need to worry about it.
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Kaine for Senate '18
benconstine
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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2008, 09:13:58 PM »

color=red]Gun Control[/color]
Far-Left: Ban all guns!
Left: We need gun control! Ban certain guns. Require registration/background checks. Gun control protects children.
Center-Left: The right to bear arms, but only responsibly! Ban assault rifles, require registration/background checks.
Center: Gun control is a state issue. Responsible gun ownership is fine.
Center-Right: We should be wary of gun control. The Second Amendment protects the right to bear arms.
Right: Gun ownership is constitutionally protected. Protect sportsmen's rights and the Second Amendment.
Far-Right: The Second Amendment is not negotiable! No restrictions on firearms!

Health Care
Far-Left: We need a completely public health care system! Publicly funded, universal health care insurance. Health care is a right!
Left: Completely public health care system and include prescription drugs under Medicare. Require health insurance for every child.
Center-Left: Universal health care whether public or private. Require health insurance for every child.
Center: Public health care benefits for the poor and elderly, the rest private.
Center-Right: More tax-deductable health costs. Very limited public health services. Give health coverage to uninsured children.
Right: Very limited role for government in health care. Tax credits for personal Health Savings Accounts.
Far-Right: The health care system should be completely private, it is not a responsibility of the federal government.

Homeland Security
Far-Left: We do not need to be concerned with homeland security. No Star Wars or infringement on civil liberties!
Left: If we were more respectful to other nations they would respect us in return.  Reduce security measures and funding.
Center-Left: We must defend ourselves only if attacked. Increase some security, funding for natural disasters. Oppose Patriot Act.
Center: Homeland security is a priority, balance between natural disaster relief and anti-terrorism. Missile Defense is inappropriate.
Center-Right: Homeland security is an important priority. Focus on fighting terrorism but also provide disaster relief funding.
Right: Homeland security should be our #1 priority, regardless of terror alert level. Missile Defense program. Renew Patriot Act.
Far-Right: Homeland security is foremost priority. Tighter airport surveillance. Missile Defense program. Patriot Act permanent.

Immigration
Far-Left: Completely open borders. Try to obtain global citizenship.
Left: Immigration is great! The more immigrants the better. Just require a criminal record check. Full blanket-amnesty.
Center-Left: Legal immigration is great. Support guest-worker program for illegals and amnesty.
Center: Enforce current laws and tighter border security but allow room for a guest-worker program.
Center-Right: Illegal immigration is a serious problem. Tighter border security. Reform immigration laws.
Right: Tighten border security with stricter immigration enforcement provisions. Deport illegal immigrants.
Far-Right: Stop all immigration completely.  Deport illegal aliens and build massive security fence on Mexican and Canadian borders.

Iran
Far-Left: Iran should be able to develop nuclear technology - they will only use it for peaceful purposes.
Left: We should deal with Iran through the United Nations.
Center-Left: Diplomacy and economic sanctions should make Iran see things our way.
Center: Keep diplomatic channels open and use economic sanctions. Go to war as a last resort.
Center-Right: We should prepare to attack Iran but be sure that we have the proper intelligence.
Right: We should launch a pre-emptive attack on Iran and destroy all potential nuclear sites.
Far-Right: Iran and North Korea have troubled us long enough!  Launch a full-fledged attack and invade them.

Iraq
Far-Left: Apologize to Iraq and the United Nations. Pull out all troops at once and pay reparations.
Left: Withdraw all American troops at once. This was an illegal war of aggression.
Center-Left: We have done our job in Iraq. Begin pulling out troops gradually. Set a timeline for full withdrawal.
Center: We should seek a multilateral solution and bring in the UN/NATO and allies to help rebuild Iraq.
Center-Right: We have successfully liberated Iraq. We must train security forces in Iraq and maintain our presence there.
Right: Complete the mission! Reconstruct/rebuild Iraq. Hunt for terrorists and insurgents.
Far-Right: We should make Iraq a tributary state and harvest its oil wealth.

Outsourcing
Far-Left: Protect the American labor market. Punish companies that send jobs overseas.
Left: Remove tax incentives on companies that send jobs overseas to discourage outsourcing. Protect American labor.
Center-Left: End some of the tax incentives for companies sending jobs overseas. Support American labor!
Center: The American labor market is fine the way it is.
Center-Right: Outsourcing is not a problem, it is part of a globalized world and helps America.
Right: By outsourcing the U.S. frees up a lot of laborers to go on to better jobs. The profit stays at home.
Far-Right: We need to encourage businesses to do whatever is necessary to generate profit and oppose unions.

Personal Tax
Far-Left: Increase income tax for everyone.
Left: Increase income tax for the rich. Reduce slightly for those in lower income bracket.
Center-Left: Keep taxes progressive because it is fair and balanced. Exempt the very poor from taxes.
Center: Leave income tax as it is presently. Keep progressive taxes and remove small hidden taxes like marriage tax.
Center-Right: Reduce income tax for the lower and middle class.
Right: Taxes should be flatter and lower. Across-the-board tax cuts.
Far-Right: Reduce income tax for the rich.

Same-Sex Marriage
Far-Left: Same-sex marriage is a fundamental human right.
Left: Same-sex marriage is a constitutional right.
Center-Left: Same-sex marriage, even if not in name.
Center: Retain marriage as it is but explore civil unions.
Center-Right: Marriage is between a man and a woman to the exclusion of all others.
Right: Marriage is between a man and a woman. Support a constitutional ban on same-sex marriages.
Far-Right: Homosexuals need to be treated for their condition.

Social Security
Far-Left: No to any private investment, dramatically increase funding.
Left: No to private investment and personal retirement accounts, increase funding.
Center-Left: Allow a small amount of private investment but keep it regulated.
Center: Keep social security as it is.
Center-Right: Let workers privately invest some of their retirement payments.
Right: Gradually scale down federal involvement and implement privatization of social security over time.
Far-Right: Let workers privately invest all retirement payments.

Unions
Far-Left: Organized labor is essential to a worker's state and unions provide the source of our prosperity.
Left: Labor Unions are a worker's best protection against exploitation.
Center-Left: Labor Unions provide job security and allow workers to collectively better themselves and be paid a fair wage.
Center: Labor demands must be balanced with business concerns.
Center-Right: Unions are undermining our economy by blackmailing companies to overpay their workers.
Right: Unions are hindering our economic prosperity with their constant bickering.
Far-Right: Unions should be outlawed.

War on Terror
Far-Left: Terrorism will be reduced if we stop meddling in other country's affairs. Dramatically change our foreign policy.
Left: We should develop an anti-terror strategy with the United Nations to stop economic and social injustice.
Center-Left: Focus on better foreign policy and cut off terrorist funding, use military force if we must.
Center: We must focus on Al Qaeda, the War on Iraq is a distraction.
Center-Right: We should not hesitate to use military force against terrorism.
Right: Terrorism can only be stopped one way: military force. Unilateral attacks justified to crush terrorism.
Far-Right: Unilaterally attack countries suspected of supporting terrorists.
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Kaine for Senate '18
benconstine
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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2008, 10:11:17 PM »

This will serve as the official thread for the P4E+P scenario that I have created; it is just the 2008 scenario, but witn Atlas people instead of real candidates (VP candidates remain the same).

I'll need the following information for everyone:
Basic Information:
Title: Governor
First name: Chris
Last name: Soult
Party: Republican
Age: 52
Gender: M
PIP: 25 (the highest I have ever seen on there is 40)
Home region: PA
Starting funds: $8,000,000
Primaries description: you decide, I'll accept what you write
General description: ^^^^^
How well known: 3 (again usually the standard)
How well established: 2 (thats usually the standard)
Percentage goal: n/a
Seats goal: n/a

Attributes: (28 total points allowed, 1-5)Sad
Leadership: 4
Integrity: 4
Experience: 3
Issue Familiarity: 5
Charisma: 3
Stamina: 5
Debating: 4

Thanks for playing; we only have 2 Republicans, and could use some more.
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Kaine for Senate '18
benconstine
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« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2008, 10:12:32 PM »

Guys, PIP is Political Influence Points, which help you gain endorsements.  You can have between 1-500 PIP's.

I think it would be a good idea to set the limit at 40... as I said, I have NEVER seen it higher than that.

I'll think about it; I like giving people a high ceiling, because IRL, there is no limit (of course, it doesn't exist, but still Wink)
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Kaine for Senate '18
benconstine
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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2008, 10:37:15 PM »


Thanks; if you guys wouldn't mind, please give me a picture, as well (preferably someone who actually ran).
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Kaine for Senate '18
benconstine
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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2008, 10:46:51 PM »


Thanks; if you guys wouldn't mind, please give me a picture, as well (preferrably someone who actually ran).

I would trust you to issue the "How well known" "How well organized" and "PIP" based on the answers we gave about our personal attributes and position in government.

Perhaps; but I'm content to let people choose.
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Kaine for Senate '18
benconstine
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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2008, 11:23:19 PM »

Here's our first test run:

Democratic candidates:
Senator Ben Constine (Virginia)
Governor Joshua Sanchez (North Carolina)
Governor Jesse Wedewer (Washington)
Governor Vince Pilar (Colorado)

Republicans:
Governor Santiago Drexler (California)
Governor Chris Soult (Pennsylvania)
Governor Brett Valmont (New Jersey)
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Kaine for Senate '18
benconstine
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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2008, 11:31:55 PM »
« Edited: August 18, 2008, 11:33:53 PM by Virginia Democrat »

Democratic Polls on December 31st, 2007:

Constine: 5 states
Pilar: 3 states
Wedewer: 3 states
Sanchez: 1 state

GOP Polls on December 31st, 2007:

Valmont: 6 states
Drexler: 2 states
Soult: 1 state

Pilar and Valmont win Iowa.

Wedewer and Valmont win New Hampshire.

Wedewer and Drexler win Nevada.

Wedewer and Drexler win South Carolina.

Constine and Soult win Florida; Pilar and Valmont win Michigan.
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Kaine for Senate '18
benconstine
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« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2008, 11:41:41 PM »

Democratic Polls on February 4th, 2008 (already finished <90)Sad


Republican Primaries on February 4th, 2008 (already finished <90)Sad
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Kaine for Senate '18
benconstine
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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2008, 11:54:49 PM »

Democratic Polls on February 11th, 2008 (already finished <90)


Republican Polls on February 11th, 2008 (already finished <90)


Wedewer wins Maryland, and Virginia, Sanchez wins DC.  Drexler wins Maryland, Valmont wins Virginia, Soult wins DC.

Wedewer wins Hawaii, Pilar wins Wisconsin.  Drexler wins Hawaii and Wisconsin.

Soult withdraws on March 3rd, makes no endorsement.

Pilar wins Ohio, Rhode Island, Texas, and Vermont.  Drexler wins Ohio, Rhode Island, Texas; Valmont wins Vermont.

Wedewer and Drexler win Wyoming.

Constine withdraws March 10, offers no endorsement.

Sanchez and Drexler win Mississippi.
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Kaine for Senate '18
benconstine
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« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2008, 11:57:52 PM »

Valmont withdraws on March 31, offers no endorsement; Drexler becomes nominee.

Sanchez wins Indiana.

Pilar endorses Sanchez on April 21.

Sanchez and Drexler win Pennsylvania.

Wedewer withdraws on May 5, makes Sanchez nominee.
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Kaine for Senate '18
benconstine
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« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2008, 12:02:41 AM »

General Election Polling on June 23, 2008:

Drexler: 46.8% PV,  248 EV
Sanchez: 45.8% PV, 202 EV
Tossup: 7.4% PV, 88 EV
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Kaine for Senate '18
benconstine
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« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2008, 12:06:54 AM »

Sanchez chooses John Edwards as VP; Drexler chooses Romney.

General Election Polling on September 5, 2008:

Drexler: 47.7% PV, 228 EV
Sanchez: 46.2% PV, 211 EV
Tossup: 6% PV, 99 EV
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Kaine for Senate '18
benconstine
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« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2008, 12:20:04 AM »

Election called for Sanchez at 11:42 PM, with California as the clinching state.

Final Results:

Sanchez: 51.7% PV, 334 EV
Drexler: 48.3% PV, 204 EV
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Kaine for Senate '18
benconstine
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« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2008, 12:24:15 AM »

I'm going to bed now, but tomorrow I'll be taking requests for particular matchups.  Good night Smiley
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Kaine for Senate '18
benconstine
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« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2008, 09:58:48 AM »


Pilar: 54.5% PV, 506 EV
Valmont: 45.5% PV, 32 EV
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Kaine for Senate '18
benconstine
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« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2008, 11:10:22 AM »

I think you should just have a big primary with all the candidates for both parties then do the general with the winners of those primaries and their running mates.

I will do that, but I'm going to make this a continual thing, with people coming as they please, and requesting primary matchups, general matchups, etc.  Plus, until Hashemite gives me his platform, I don't have all the candidates.
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Kaine for Senate '18
benconstine
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« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2008, 11:18:12 AM »

I figured I should post my stats as well:

Basic Information:
Title: Senator
First name: Ben
Last name: Constine
Party: Democratic
Age: 60
Gender: M
PIP: 500
Home region: Virginia
Starting funds: 20,000,000
Primaries description: A moderate from Virginia, can he capture the nomination?
General description: A moderate from Virginia, can he capture the Presidency?
How well known: High
How well established: 4
Percentage goal: 51
Seats goal: 270

Attributes: (28 total points allowed, 1-5)Sad
Leadership: 4
Integrity: 3
Experience: 5
Issue Familiarity: 3
Charisma: 5
Stamina: 3
Debating: 5

Platform
Abortion: CL
Balanced Budget: CR
Business Tax: CR
Education: L
Energy: CL
Environment: C
Gun Control: CR
Health Care: L
Homeland Security: CR
Immigration: C
Iran: CR
Iraq: CL
Outsourcing: CL
Personal Tax: CR
Same Sex Marriage: CL
Social Security: CL
Unions: C
War on Terror: CR
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Kaine for Senate '18
benconstine
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« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2008, 11:33:23 AM »


Moore: 53.4% PV, 377 EV
Soult: 46.6% PV, 161 EV

Kansas was decided by only 117 votes.
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Kaine for Senate '18
benconstine
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« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2008, 12:00:04 PM »

All the hispanics must have been confused and voted for Sanchez instead of the real Mexican. Tongue

I want to face fezzy with HappyWarrior as my VP and Drexler as his.


Valmont: 51.7% PV, 357 EV
Wedewer: 48.3% PV, 181 EV
Closest state was Nevada, decided by 918 votes.
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Kaine for Senate '18
benconstine
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« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2008, 12:14:19 PM »

All the hispanics must have been confused and voted for Sanchez instead of the real Mexican. Tongue

I want to face fezzy with HappyWarrior as my VP and Drexler as his.


Valmont: 51.7% PV, 357 EV
Wedewer: 48.3% PV, 181 EV
Closest state was Nevada, decided by 918 votes.

Its thanks to me you got Maryland Wink  and probably Missouri too. lol

Pennsylvania was pretty close at the end, too (it stayed red for a while on election night).
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benconstine
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« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2008, 01:33:49 PM »


I hadn't thought of doing that, actually; I was going to keep it running on my computer, allowing people to be added as they come along.
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