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Dan the Roman
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« on: September 09, 2015, 07:04:03 AM »

since the issue of Syrian refugees has come up, a poll has been done about with very definitive results:

Do you support or oppose accepting refugees in Israel?

Oppose: 80%
Support: 11%
Don't know: 9%


Bibi is definitely with most Israelis on this issue.

Good. very glad to see most Israelis are sensible on this.

Sane! Not accepting war-torn refugees is the f*king sane person.

Not accepting them in Israel almost certainly is. Decisions don't occur in moral vacuums distinct from reality. An employee of Wal-Mart is not evil because he fails to donate $100,000 to help a Syrian family or any less moral than a billionaire.

That said, Israel should probably donate to help resettle the refugees elsewhere.
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Dan the Roman
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« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2015, 07:37:37 AM »

since the issue of Syrian refugees has come up, a poll has been done about with very definitive results:

Do you support or oppose accepting refugees in Israel?

Oppose: 80%
Support: 11%
Don't know: 9%


Bibi is definitely with most Israelis on this issue.

Good. very glad to see most Israelis are sensible on this.

Sane! Not accepting war-torn refugees is the f*king sane person.

Not accepting them in Israel almost certainly is. Decisions don't occur in moral vacuums distinct from reality. An employee of Wal-Mart is not evil because he fails to donate $100,000 to help a Syrian family or any less moral than a billionaire.

That said, Israel should probably donate to help resettle the refugees elsewhere.
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How does Isreal, as well as other countries, get a pass for not taking in refugees. Especially Isreal, which gets the coddlement of the US and most western countries, and the highest military aid from the US, get the pass of not taking the humane position of taking in refugees

Because such obligations do not arise in a vacuum. Belgium probably should be expected to take in as many as the US, which is far larger. Furthermore, national security is a legitimate national interest. Latvia might have a legislate reason why it would not want to take in hundreds of thousands of Russian refugees.

Any sane person looking at this objectively would see why Israel, a country that has its own political conflicts based on demographics, would not want to take in a large population of people who have spent their entire lives in a regime based around advocating the murder of Jews and of Israel's population. The only reason someone would be demanding this as some sort of intellectually dishonest stick to beat Israel over, as an excuse to bring up their objections to Israel existing as it is. If you think Israel should not exist, fine, say so out-loud, but don't pretend to hide behind a humanitarian duty to refugees to do it.

Nation's exist to protect their populations. There is never a moral obligation for a nation to commit suicide.
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