Bush Leads in WI, MO, & OH, According to L.A. Times

[The Vorlon]

LA Times: joke.

True... but they actually farm their state polls out to "whomever" so while usually a joke.. at least the punch line varries from poll to poll

[The Vorlon]

LA Times may be a joke...but a pro-Bush joke?

The LA Times essentially subcontracts out their state polling.

Depending who did it, it might be ok, it might be useless.

Till I get details, I have no comment one way or the other.

[The Vorlon]

I found the internals of the LA Times state polls.

As some of you may recall I have had the odd bad thing to say about the LA Times polling unit, which some of you disregarded as pro-bush bias.

Here are 3 pro-bush polls...

The internals of these are comically bad... these things are Zogby levels of insanity..

Use then to wrap fish, or line your bird cage...

[The Vorlon]

The internals of these are comically bad... these things are Zogby levels of insanity..

Use then to wrap fish, or line your bird cage...


  Just out of curiosity, what are the internals that make these polls os bad.  Do they overstate the number of Republicans??  Understate independents etc.?


I believe Wis would be pretty tough to estimate as it has same day registration and I belive no statewide list of voters.  Only precinct level lists.  Perhaps that's why polls of that state are all over the place.

Ill Ind

The ration of men to women is off.

In wisconsin when you add Nader to the ballot Bush's lead drops by 3%

The ration of young to old is way off.

Populations education levels are way out

Party ID is all screwed up in Missouri,

Party breakout in Ohio is all wrong...

This thing is a disaster...

[The Vorlon]

On Nader, I believe I have read somewhere that Nades actually hurts Bush in Wisconsin, as opposed to everywhere else.

Bush by 4 head to head in Wisconsis, but up only 1 with Nader... so says the LA Times.

The internals of these state polls were hilarious...  Made me long for a nice 'reliable' pollster... like Zogby....