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dead0man
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« on: July 25, 2015, 12:46:42 AM »

Ideally there should be a lot of things, but the real world often doesn't go the ideal way.  There is no chance of a single, secular state there any time in the next, say, 75 years.  (absent some huge, world changing event)
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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2015, 07:05:23 AM »

Do Israeli citizens from Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Jordan, S.Arabia, Iran, Libya, Tunisia..(you get the idea) get "monetary compensation" in this scheme of yours?


(and does your lists refer to all their descendants too?  I assume so, cause "special", if so, add that to the question too)
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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2015, 07:36:54 AM »

Do Israeli citizens from Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Jordan, S.Arabia, Iran, Libya, Tunisia..(you get the idea) get "monetary compensation" in this scheme of yours?


(and does your lists refer to all their descendants too?  I assume so, cause "special", if so, add that to the question too)

Well, they have citizenship and have not been living in refugee camps for the time being. Their situation is very different. A Jew who was expelled from an Arab country or left voluntarily and moved to Israel did not face anywhere near the loss of economic and social capital that a Palestinian who was expelled from Israel [or left voluntarily, you seem to have missed part here] to a neighboring country has faced.
Indeed, and it seems like nobody involved has learned a damn thing from this situation.  Do you think Jordan, Lebanon, etc would be better off today had they had been as accepting as Israel?  Would the refugees be better off?

(and I'm going to need a cite that the average Palestinian lost more "economic and social capital" when forced to flee than the average Jew that was forced to flee, that seems dubious)
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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2015, 10:57:50 PM »

Do you think if Hungary invaded Austria, Germany should simply let all the Austrians come live in Germany since they're all German-speaking?
If the Austrians have no place to go and the Germans cared about them, yes.  Keeping them in camps for several generations obviously wouldn't be the way to go.  It doesn't sound like a good idea, and the facts bare that out.
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