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dead0man
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« on: July 14, 2017, 02:28:44 AM »

The title ix preponderance standard is abysmal. Adequate notice and confrontation rights must be restored as well. State schools are state actors and must protect the bill of rights.

Not defending Title IX in general but I'm not even sure the standards it sets out in regard to sexual assault really are that unreasonable. Mostly they are just vague and schools over react to cover their butts. Really though, I think any halfway decent lawyer could make that case that just reporting crimes to the police is enough to comply with Title IX.
that's a big part of the problem, the fake victims (and theoretically real ones too, though I have my doubts) don't want the cops involved.  As soon as the cops find out you were both drunk and you texted him 127 times after the "rape" wanting to hook up again, they start asking really difficult questions.  But if they just have the idiotic college lead courts "investigate" they know the "rapist" will be punished no matter the evidence he has on his side.
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dead0man
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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2017, 09:43:34 AM »

The title ix preponderance standard is abysmal. Adequate notice and confrontation rights must be restored as well. State schools are state actors and must protect the bill of rights.

Not defending Title IX in general but I'm not even sure the standards it sets out in regard to sexual assault really are that unreasonable. Mostly they are just vague and schools over react to cover their butts. Really though, I think any halfway decent lawyer could make that case that just reporting crimes to the police is enough to comply with Title IX.
that's a big part of the problem, the fake victims (and theoretically real ones too, though I have my doubts) don't want the cops involved.  As soon as the cops find out you were both drunk and you texted him 127 times after the "rape" wanting to hook up again, they start asking really difficult questions.  But if they just have the idiotic college lead courts "investigate" they know the "rapist" will be punished no matter the evidence he has on his side.
I know men are the REAL VICTIMS of everything, but that basically never happens. Why would anyone even throw a false accusation in such a scenario?
seriously?  I could give ya a bunch of links but we both know it would never be enough.  Look, if you want a specific gender of college student to be punished with sh**tty evidence, in sh**tty courts make sure Title IX stays the same.  If you think the accused in college sexual assault cases should have normal accused person rights then you should agree there is some reform needed.


You may now return to feeling superior.
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dead0man
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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2017, 03:38:15 AM »

They ain't coming back to defend themselves Mortimer.  They made their drive by post, got that feeling of superiority they were looking for, and then left.  I suppose they might come back to see who patted them on the back for their strong support for feminism, but I wouldn't count on it.
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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2017, 10:36:34 AM »

Right, that "terrible take" that the majority agrees with.  The "terrible take" that asks for people to actually be found guilty of a crime before they are punished.  Compared to your take of.....ahhh, just bashing, no substance.
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