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Хahar 🤔
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« on: September 09, 2008, 03:17:46 PM »

I applaud Torie for taking the time to consider his constituents and craft this solid bill.
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« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2008, 03:35:25 PM »

I applaud Torie for taking the time to consider his constituents and craft this solid bill.
Introduced on behalf of PiT, actually.

I played a big role in the process, too.
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« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2008, 05:43:42 PM »

Independent registration is still allowed. However, this gives advantages to party membership.
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Хahar 🤔
Xahar
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« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2008, 10:30:25 PM »

Independent registration is still allowed. However, this gives advantages to party membership.
The bill says you can't vote if you aren't registered to a viable party.  What everyone just registers as Independent?

You just can't vote if you belong to a non-viable party.
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Xahar
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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2008, 09:48:37 AM »

Independent registration is still allowed. However, this gives advantages to party membership.
The bill says you can't vote if you aren't registered to a viable party.  What everyone just registers as Independent?

You just can't vote if you belong to a non-viable party.

I could understand letting them not stand, but not vote?

Certain not to get any support from me.

Not letting them stand seems reasonable. Perhaps propose an amendment to that effect?
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Хahar 🤔
Xahar
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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2008, 12:23:00 AM »

Ask Mr. PiT. I helped him draft the bill. I will help anyone fortunate enough to live in the Pacific to draft any bill that they desire, and make it as good as it can be. I am here to serve. Smiley

How about the bill I created in the Debate/Protest thread?
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« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2008, 06:29:51 PM »

I oppose this bill. If Atlasia had more participants this could be possible but the fact of the matter is that we dont and we need to accept that.

Explain?
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Хahar 🤔
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« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2008, 07:08:06 PM »

I oppose this bill. If Atlasia had more participants this could be possible but the fact of the matter is that we dont and we need to accept that.

Explain?

For a complex party structure to work there would need to be a larger base in Atlasia. Also we have a large number of independents and people who are parts of small parties, if possible we should keep things as open as possible for the voters.

I don't really get what you're saying. Since we're small, we should have lots of small parties?
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Хahar 🤔
Xahar
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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2008, 11:05:36 AM »

I oppose this bill. If Atlasia had more participants this could be possible but the fact of the matter is that we dont and we need to accept that.

Explain?

For a complex party structure to work there would need to be a larger base in Atlasia. Also we have a large number of independents and people who are parts of small parties, if possible we should keep things as open as possible for the voters.

I don't really get what you're saying. Since we're small, we should have lots of small parties?
Since we're small, we don't need parties.

But it's no fun without them.
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Xahar
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2008, 04:44:46 PM »

I'll help:

If we seriously consider the purity of the Christian religion, the sanctity of its moral precepts, and the innocent as well as austere lives of the greater number of those who during the first ages embraced the faith of the gospel, we should naturally suppose, that so benevolent a doctrine would have been received with due reverence, even by the unbelieving world; that the learned and the polite, however they may deride the miracles, would have esteemed the virtues, of the new sect; and that the magistrates, instead of persecuting, would have protected an order of men who yielded the most passive obedience to the laws, though they declined the active cares of war and government. If, on the other hand, we recollect the universal toleration of Polytheism, as it was invariably maintained by the faith of the people, the incredulity of philosophers, and the policy of the Roman senate and emperors, we are at a loss to discover what new offence the Christians had committed, what new provocation could exasperate the mild indifference of antiquity, and what new motives could urge the Roman princes, who beheld without concern a thousand forms of religion subsisting in peace under their gentle sway, to inflict a severe punishment on any part of their subjects, who had chosen for themselves a singular but an inoffensive mode of faith and worship.


The religious policy of the ancient world seems to have assumed a more stern and intolerant character, to oppose the progress of Christianity. About fourscore years after the death of Christ, his innocent disciples were punished with death by the sentence of a proconsul of the most amiable and philosophic character, and according to the laws of an emperor distinguished by the wisdom and justice of his general administration. The apologies which were repeatedly addressed to the successors of Trajan are filled with the most pathetic complaints, that the Christians, who obeyed the dictates, and solicited the liberty, of conscience, were alone, among all the subjects of the Roman empire, excluded from the common benefits of their auspicious government. The deaths of a few eminent martyrs have been recorded with care; and from the time that Christianity was invested with the supreme power, the governors of the church have been no less diligently employed in displaying the cruelty, than in imitating the conduct, of their Pagan adversaries. To separate (if it be possible) a few authentic as well as interesting facts from an undigested mass of fiction and error, and to relate, in a clear and rational manner, the causes, the extent, the duration, and the most important circumstances of the persecutions to which the first Christians were exposed, is the design of the present chapter. *
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Хahar 🤔
Xahar
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« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2008, 01:20:20 PM »
« Edited: October 25, 2008, 12:12:12 PM by Председатель Захар »


It sure is.



If I've missed anything or added anything which is not actually there, please tell me and I'll fix it. Big version.
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Хahar 🤔
Xahar
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« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2008, 01:33:11 PM »


Does he? I wasn't aware. I'll fix it.
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Xahar
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« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2008, 01:54:39 PM »


It sure is.



If I've missed anything or added anything which is not actually there, please tell me and I'll fix it. Big version.
That's funny I must admit.  But seriously Xahar too much time on your times.  As for my original quote, it comes from this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud--Ib8PKco

Yes, I know. To both of those. It took me about an hour and a half yesterday morning.
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