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The Mikado
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« on: March 09, 2010, 04:57:01 PM »

While there's little doubt in my mind that Thermidor's coming (way ahead of schedule, sadly), I wouldn't be too glum about it.  The conservative periods in the 50s and 80s tried to turn back waves from the 30s and 60s, respectively, and did, in some respects, but ended up making their peace with certain social gains, and I feel it'll be the same here.  If the healthcare reform passes, I don't see it being overturned successfully, though it might be scaled-back/retooled extensively, just like the GOP majorities in Eisenhower's first term didn't dare touch Social Security.  The advances in gay rights will be mostly safe, I predict, although I wouldn't be surprised to see an extensive backlash against abortion rights and "promiscuity" in general.

The disappointing thing to me about this Thermidorian Reaction is how little it took to trigger it.  "We should make some cosmetic alterations to the health care system!"  "Oh, noes, teh socialism!!!"  That's the thing: Obama was never radical to begin with, and yet his mere presence triggered this massive reactionary wave.
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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2010, 06:15:29 PM »

Eugene McCarthy is hardly a good example for the period you mentioned.  He was a crotchety old crank in a period that revolved around youth.
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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2010, 09:04:20 PM »

Eugene McCarthy is hardly a good example for the period you mentioned.  He was a crotchety old crank in a period that revolved around youth.

Not true, but to say Gene McCarthy embodies the "trend-left" of 1965-1980 is a little bizarre.

Which part of my statement do you disagree with?  He most certainly was a crotchety old crank.  If you disagree with the "revolved around youth," that's more understandable...that was a gross overgeneralization and a poor word choice on my part.
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