Rabbi urges Jewish students at Columbia to leave campus

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What % of these protestors are here on a visa, and what % are citizens? It seems a bit strange to just assume they're non-citizens, but I guess it's such an alien concept to be that I just don't really know the answer.

https://opir.columbia.edu/sites/default/files/content/Statistical%20Abstract/opir_enrollment_ethnicity.pdf

20% of Colombia students are "NRAs" -- Non-Resident Aliens. Including other aliens who had resided in the US before college, it's probably significantly higher -- illegals, diplomats kids, people with parents temporarily working here, the kids of H1Bers without citizenship yet.

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What % of these protestors are here on a visa, and what % are citizens? It seems a bit strange to just assume they're non-citizens, but I guess it's such an alien concept to be that I just don't really know the answer.

https://opir.columbia.edu/sites/default/files/content/Statistical%20Abstract/opir_enrollment_ethnicity.pdf

20% of Colombia students are "NRAs" -- Non-Resident Aliens. Including other aliens who had resided in the US before college, it's probably significantly higher -- illegals, diplomats kids, people with parents temporarily working here, the kids of H1Bers without citizenship yet.

Actually, it's 40% including grad schools -- the 20% is just undergrads.

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What % of these protestors are here on a visa, and what % are citizens? It seems a bit strange to just assume they're non-citizens, but I guess it's such an alien concept to be that I just don't really know the answer.

https://opir.columbia.edu/sites/default/files/content/Statistical%20Abstract/opir_enrollment_ethnicity.pdf

20% of Colombia students are "NRAs" -- Non-Resident Aliens. Including other aliens who had resided in the US before college, it's probably significantly higher -- illegals, diplomats kids, people with parents temporarily working here, the kids of H1Bers without citizenship yet.

I don't think that really answers my question though. I'm looking for these specific protestors, not just students in general.

It provides what should be your null estimate. I would then expect something above that given that there seems to be a pretty large Muslim proportion among these students, and that there are still relatively few Muslim Americans.

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Inspiring statement from President Biden…

https://twitter.com/jenniferjjacobs/status/1782489572657492239?s=46&t=J_equ3...

And some I assume, are good people.

Wow, I can't believe he hedged like that. A Charlottesville-tier statement.

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I stan Shai Davidai. Kapos and asajews deserve all the withering criticism they're getting.

I support his cause but he personally seems dislikable. Would you really go so far as to say you like him?

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Will these protests spill outside of college campuses and become full-fledged riots? Seems fitting as we are closing in on four years since the George Floyd protests.

This could age like milk, but I don't think so. Think about what has caused American protests/riots in the past: implementation of a military draft in the middle of a civil war, labor rights, the war in Vietnam, police brutality.

Israel/Gaza is too niche of an issue for full-fledged riots to break out. American soldiers aren't dying in Gaza and unarmed American civilians aren't being killed by the IDF. The death and destruction in Gaza is too distant for most Americans to care, much less start a riot over.

I don't disagree, but this is far too narrow of a list. For example, the Astor Place riots left 30 people dead over "a dispute between Edwin Forrest, one of the best-known American actors of that time, and William Charles Macready, a similarly notable English actor, which largely revolved around which of them was better than the other at acting the major roles of Shakespeare."

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I am a Zionist, and deeply disagree with these protesters.  That said, does it not bother anyone outside the protest movement that the police and government officials are being a bit heavy-handed with them?  They have been overwhelmingly peaceful so far, so there is no reason for the gestapo-approach unless intimidation is the intention.  

> heavy handed

> gestapo style approach

Do you really think that arresting people for occupying private property is heavy handed?

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I am a Zionist, and deeply disagree with these protesters.  That said, does it not bother anyone outside the protest movement that the police and government officials are being a bit heavy-handed with them?  They have been overwhelmingly peaceful so far, so there is no reason for the gestapo-approach unless intimidation is the intention.  

> heavy handed

> gestapo style approach

Do you really think that arresting people for occupying private property is heavy handed?

I think it’s heavy-handed to arrest students for being on their own university campus, yes.

Oh, were students arrested for attending classes or eating meals? I agree that that's pretty outrageous, if so.

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https://www.nationalreview.com/news/northwestern-cuts-deal-with-encampment-organizers-establishes-full-ride-scholarship-for-palestinian-students/

Seems like NW is violating a SCOTUS imitative as a peace offering to the students.

I'm hearing from Evanston sources that Richard Hanania, formerly with UT Austin's Salem Center for Public Policy and Columbia's Arnold Saltzman Institute of War and Peace Studies, will be Northwestern's first Professor of Palestinian Studies.

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https://www.nationalreview.com/news/northwestern-cuts-deal-with-encampment-organizers-establishes-full-ride-scholarship-for-palestinian-students/

Seems like NW is violating a SCOTUS imitative as a peace offering to the students.

I'm hearing from Evanston sources that Richard Hanania, formerly with UT Austin's Salem Center for Public Policy and Columbia's Arnold Saltzman Institute of War and Peace Studies, will be Northwestern's first Professor of Palestinian Studies.

Just send Hanania to Gaza so he can study firsthand. It'd be good for him.

Are you suggesting that Hanania "go back to Gaza?" Seems pretty racist.