Democratic Wild Western Tuesday results thread

[RJEvans]

Independents will ultimately decide who wins the GE

Either way independents barely had a role

So Independents will decide the election in 2016, but barely had a role in 2012. Got it.

[RJEvans]

It sounds like the Democratic results will come in substantially earlier than the Republican results.

What makes you say that?

[RJEvans]

Bernie wins UT and ID by more than 30 points I think. AZ much closer than expected.

[RJEvans]

For some reason, Sanders is surging in the Arizona market on PredictIt.

If Sanders wins AZ, it means he wins Latinos and it means he likely wins NM and CA by slim margins. Not that it matters. He won't win them by enough of a margin to take a delegate lead.

[RJEvans]

Democrats need to have another big conference or something to reform the primary process. The crap we are dealing with tonight is utterly unacceptable.

And UT was a primary in 2008. I don't know why they would choose an undemocratic process over a primary.

[RJEvans]

Hillary could get indicted & anyways would drop out when the FBI finds her guilty, indictment or not.

Either ways only 50% of the states have voted, so I don't see the big deal.

If he cares about the progressive movement, then Hillary clean needs to lose in November for a real progressive to rise - The Dem party needs to have a huge temporary setback if it needs to go the right way on the long term.

Supporting a mass murderer neo con is doing so service to the progressive wing.

So now you are so desperate you subscribe to Donald Trump talking points. Sad!

Some of the most ardent of Bernie voters have resorted to using GOP talking-points to attack Clinton. I don't engage.

[RJEvans]

God I hate caucuses. They need to be banned.

[RJEvans]

First results from UT:

sanders   
47.9%
0
clinton   
45.4%

Hillary won it by 18 points in 2008.

But that was a primary. This is a caucus.