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« on: March 31, 2013, 10:59:26 PM »

I wouldn't consider something in Paul's epistles to be necessarily something Jesus said.


He gave his life up so we could have a chance to live. He was the only perfect person ever to exist, and he gave up that status as a sacrifice for our sins. He, a Deity, brought Himself to the level of a sacrificial goat for our sins. There can be no greater love ever to exist then the love that He has for us all.

Except according to the narrative he didn't give up his life - the resurrection was planned, was it not? It's not really a sacrifice if you plan on getting back what you're "sacrificing" in a mere three days, not to mention that for an eternal being to lose a mere three days in its corporeal form doesn't seem like that much of a loss in the grand scheme of things.

Death is death. As a human being, which Jesus was, he experienced the anxiety of death.  Holding hope in a resurrection doesn't mean that allowing oneself to suffer and be killed is not a meaningful demonstration of love.
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« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2013, 07:45:51 PM »
« Edited: April 04, 2013, 07:48:07 PM by shua »

I can understand the concerns that lead people to have a somewhat negative view of Jesus.  I think these are mostly misunderstandings, but then again it's not hard to see that Jesus has been misunderstood from the very beginning, and perhaps his style of teaching lends itself to that at some level. 

On the other hand, I tend to think that many who see Jesus' impact in mostly negative terms aren't putting their alternate history thinking caps on and/or are taking a great many things for granted that they shouldn't be.
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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2013, 08:30:39 PM »

On the other hand, I tend to think that many who see Jesus' impact in mostly negative terms aren't putting their alternate history thinking caps on and/or are taking a great many things for granted that they shouldn't be.

Like what? What am I taking for granted that Jesus has given me?

I don't know about you specifically, but some people might appreciate the existence of widely available hospitals.  Those who are not thoroughly post-Christian might also appreciate the idea that unwanted or disabled newborns shouldn't be exposed to the elements -  which is a subset of the larger Christian contribution to the concept of universal human dignity.
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