Social Democratic Party Convention

[MaxQue]

My comment on each proposed bylaw.
1. The symbol? I don't really understand the thing. The logo is a photo of the Chairman?
2. Politburo sound too non-english. Perhaps something like Politdesk? I don't think that the name of the thing is very important.
3. Yes.
4. Which frequency? After the election? Before? I would prefer after the election to the four mouths to represent the concerns of the members.
5. Yes.
6. Yes.
7. Yes. I agree with Xahar.
8. I think than AL is right on that one.
9. I agree with the nomination by the chairman or by election. I don't think than an appointment by the General Secretary is a good idea because than the Politburo elect the General Secretary.
10. Al is right on that one.
11. I don't think that this is a good idea. I have the same concerns than Al.
12. Yes. That is oblivious.
13. That is also oblivious. One question. What happens if a candidate who loses in the SDP primary decide to be an general election candidate?
14. I don't see which bylaw can be violated.
15. Yes

[MaxQue]

2. Politburo sound too non-english. Perhaps something like Politdesk? I don't think that the name of the thing is very important.

Well, Politburo has specific connotations that more literal translations can't capture.

I understand that.

4. Which frequency? After the election? Before? I would prefer after the election to the four mouths to represent the concerns of the members.

Elections take place every four months, so there is no problem there.

The length of of the General Secretary mandate is not written in the proposed bylaws. They only say than the Politburo is elected for 2 months and the Chairman for four months.

[MaxQue]

Two other things.

What will the voting system for the election of the chairman and of the Politburo?

7. The number of seats in the Politburo shall be equal to one-fourths of the membership.

What happen if the number of members changes? A by-election? An appointment by the general Secretary? The new place is created only in the next election?
What happen if the Politburo should lose a seat? Removal by the General Secretary? Removal according to last election results? Election to choose who lose his seat? The seat is removed at the next election?

[MaxQue]

When the vote will close?

[MaxQue]

1. The symbol of the party shall be the Chairman. Aye
2. The executive organization of the party shall be the Politburo. Abstain
3. The head of the party administration shall be the General Secretary. Aye
4. The Politburo shall elect the General Secretary by a majority vote of its membership. Abstain
5. Elections for the post of Chairman shall take place every four months. Aye
6. Elections to each seat in the Politburo shall take place every two months. Abstain
7. The number of seats in the Politburo shall be equal to one-fourths of the membership. Nay
8. If the position of Chairman falls vacant, the General Secretary shall hold an election for Chairman to fill the remainder of the term. Aye
9. If a seat in the Politburo falls vacant, the General Secretary shall appoint a member to fill the seat for the remainder of the term. Nay
10. If multiple candidates from the Social Democratic Party are running for an office, a primary election shall be held among the membership. Aye
11. The General Secretary may suspend any party member for up to one month. Abstain
12. The Chairman may expel any suspended party member. Aye
13. A suspended or expelled member may appeal his penalty through a partywide vote of approval on the punishment. Aye
14. Failure to comply with the bylaws shall result in an official warning. If the incompliance is not rectified within a 72-hour period, action shall be taken by the leadership. Aye
15. The bylaws may be amended by a majority vote. Aye

[MaxQue]

13. 0-3

I see 1-2.

[MaxQue]

Okay, Senatorial candidates?

You are not a candidate?

[MaxQue]

I know that isn't my job, but we should vote the endorsement of the SDP candidates' for Senate, Governor and Lt. Governor.

We can, that is a by-laws who passed. We should alsoreopen the debate on the by-laws since the current by-laws are:

1. The head of the party administration shall be the General Secretary. Aye
2. Elections for the post of Chairman shall take place every four months. Aye
3. If the position of Chairman falls vacant, the General Secretary shall hold an election for Chairman to fill the remainder of the term. Aye
4. If multiple candidates from the Social Democratic Party are running for an office, a primary election shall be held among the membership. Aye
5. The bylaws may be amended by a majority vote. Aye

We have a position without power and a position with no selection process.

[MaxQue]

I would appreciate an endorsement from the SDP in the senate race.

Since you are an independent, you can join us. That has nothing to do with the senate race, but if you want our endorsement, you probably have common ideas with us.

For the endorsement, I don't know if we can.

[MaxQue]

I would appreciate an endorsement from the SDP in the senate race.

Since you are an independent, you can join us. That has nothing to do with the senate race, but if you want our endorsement, you probably have common ideas with us.

For the endorsement, I don't know if we can.

I don't think I'll be joining, for now I'm happy without a party but I am an economic liberal, and a social moderate.

I understand, being an independent has some advantages. For the endorsement, I don't know if we can endorse you, but perhaps than we will endorse you in the third position like the RPP who endorsed Xahar for the second place.

[MaxQue]

The Seisei's opinion of our party was not very good at the beginning.

Thank the possibly existent higher power for this.

I hope than he changed his opinion of us.

[MaxQue]

Xahar: Yes
Sibboeth: Yes
Happy Warrior: Yes
Sensei: Abstain

or

1: Xahar
2: Sibboeth
3: HappyWarrior
4: Sensei

What is the good way to do that since than the election for five members?

[MaxQue]

Bump.

We need to finish this convention, find the structure of the party and make a platform someday.

[MaxQue]

Since nobody talks, I'll propose something. My propositions are in bold.

1. The head of the party administration shall be the General Secretary.
2. The head of relationship with others parties shall be the Chairman
3. Elections for the post of Chairman shall take place every four months.
4. Elections for the post of General Secretary shall take place every four months
5. Chairman and General Secretary shall be elected by the membership.
6. If the position of Chairman falls vacant, the General Secretary shall hold an election for Chairman to fill the remainder of the term.
7. If multiple candidates from the Social Democratic Party are running for an office, a primary election shall be held among the membership.
8. A member can be excluded of party votes by a majority vote of the membership.
9. The bylaws may be amended by a majority vote.

I think than we can debate that. That is a beginning.

[MaxQue]

who are we exactly voting for?

I don't understand your question. Also, we need than members are active in the party to this working.

[MaxQue]

who are we exactly voting for?

I don't understand your question. Also, we need than members are active in the party to this working.

Huh? I don't understand your comment.

I don't understand your question and the fact than nobody see that before 20 days is a good indicator of the activity of the party.

[MaxQue]

The party is inactive. The Convention never finished. It would be great if somebody care about party rules.

[MaxQue]

That is what I had written in others words.

[MaxQue]

Parties matter more than before and some have more influence on his members like the RPP and others have less power on their members like the NLC.

[MaxQue]

Aye

[MaxQue]

I presume than for beginning a political life, you must begin by being a candidate for something. I am running for General Secretary. I don't think than I have big chances to be elected, I run anyways.

[MaxQue]

Are you blind? Me, Xahar and Lief are candidates.

[MaxQue]

When will the elections be!

The ballot is now posted.

Did I dream another ballot around 10h30 PM PT?

[MaxQue]

When will the elections be!

The ballot is now posted.

Did I dream another ballot around 10h30 PM PT?

I know I'm studying too much French when I read that "Dix heures et demie"

2230h

No, 22h30 not 2230h. By the way, which hour is the ''legal'' hour in Atlasia?

[MaxQue]

When will the elections be!

The ballot is now posted.

By the way, voting booth cannot be closed on Monday October 14th. It is Monday October 13th or Tuesday October 14th.