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skoods
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« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2008, 08:49:20 PM » |
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Whoah, this thread:
Can someone partially objective give me a heads up as to what's going on?
They're both just going back and forth. McCain is saying the surge has worked and that Obama has refused to meet with Petraeus. Obama is saying that McCain forgets that the war started in 2003, not 2007 and that McCain said back then that we would be seen as liberators and that the strategy would work. McCain uses the good old, "he voted against funding the troops." Obama counters with "we should end the war responsibly. We should do it in fazes and in 16 months we should be able to remove our troops and send more troops to Afghanistan to take Bin Laden." |
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skoods
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« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2008, 08:58:54 PM » |
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Afghanistan summary:
Obama: Yes, we need more troops. I think we should do it as quickly as possible. The commanders on the ground agree. The Taliban and Al-Qaeda are coming over the border and attacking our troops. I would send two to three additional brigades to Afghanistan. Keep in mind that we have tons more troops in Iraq. Keep in mind that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. That is a strategic mistake. Secretary of Defense Gates acknowledged that the people that attacked us are in Afghanistan and Pakistan. We've got to deal with a growing poppy trade that has exploded over the past few years. We've got to deal with Pakistan where Al-Qaeda has exploded over the past 8 years. Until we do, Americans here at home will not be safe.
McCain: I will not make the same mistake by leaving Afghanistan and allowing the Taliban to come back. On this issue of aiding Pakistan, i'm not prepared at this time to cut off aid to Pakistan. So i'm not prepared to threaten them as Senator Obama is apparently prepared to do. I'm not prepared to threaten the people of Pakistan. You don't say that out loud...
Thanks. Why are there so few wise/analytic posters posting tonight?
They're probably too busy watching the debate and analyzing it themselves. IMO, they're both straying off their typical party lines. McCain not wanting to threaten Pakistan and Obama being willing to threaten them if they're not going to help us in the War on Terror. It's interesting. Not sure how it will be reacted to though. |
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skoods
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« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2008, 09:08:11 PM » |
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Oh, god. This is the most boring debate I've watched since I started following Canadian and American politics in around 2002. No one is winning. No one is losing. No one is even close to getting "nailed". They're just saying boring talking points without hitting hard at each other. The first Bush-Kerry debate was far more interesting. 0_o
I'm almost tempted to watch the old 2006 West Wing debate, at least that was somewhat amusing.
ha we need Obama to walk away from the podium and grab a mic like Santos did. I wish TWW was still on :-( |
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skoods
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« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2008, 09:11:39 PM » |
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I think McCain hit Obama hard on legitimizing with Ahmadinejad.
Obama is clarifying it. "Until you agree to doing what we say, we won't have direct contact with you." And finally, someone points out that Ahmadinejad is not the most powerful person in Iran. Thank you Obama. |
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