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Ljube
Junior Chimp
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« on: May 13, 2016, 11:37:54 PM »

It won't help her. She is despised there.

The working class voters in those states don’t like the phonies and liars like Hillary.
They will support the true friend of the working class – Donald Trump.

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Ljube
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2016, 11:53:49 PM »

Hm, interesting.  I wonder if her campaign's internal polling is showing Trump competitive in that region.

Not competitive, but crushing her.
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Ljube
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2016, 12:04:06 AM »

Guys, I am exaggerating a bit. Smiley

But the fact remains. As I have told you so many times in the last ten or so months, Hillary has problems connecting with the working class voters and Trump has a strong appeal to them.
In fact, his appeal is not limited to just white working class.

That's why all these states are competitive and true battlegrounds and you will see that the general election map will change this time around, particularly if Trump manages to win the election.
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Ljube
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2016, 12:29:49 AM »

LJube is just having his fun.

I do believe Michigan will trend Republican pretty significantly with Trump on top of the ticket.  However, Romney lost Michigan by 10 in 2012, and I have a hard time seeing Trump being able to make up the whole margin.  My personal ceiling for Trump in MI is probably losing by 3 or 4, but it's probably in his best interest to force Hillary to compete there.

Romney was a very poor fit for working class voters. He is the antithesis of Trump, Trump being a real-estate developer and the ultimate job creator, and Romney being a vulture capitalist (Gordon Gekko) and job destroyer.

There will also be some traditionally Dem working class voters switching to Trump and their votes count twice for the purpose of reducing the margin.

If the popular vote margin became closer (within one point or so - as is generally expected of this election), Trump would be in a very good position to even win Michigan, while Ohio and Pennsylvania would be almost guaranteed.

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