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« on: March 09, 2010, 05:55:05 PM »

I see where you're coming from, but I tend to think we're entering a permissive phase really. Things like marijuana and gay marriage aber becoming much more accepted. The "dark age" were the 80s and 90s, IMO.
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Indeed, cycles can be identified in the History of modern countries, Europe adapting them in a different way than USA. However, I think they don't concern only social issues but also economic ones. And despite this won't please libertarians, I tend to think periods of greater "permissivity" socially speaking tend to correspond to period when Government exerces an important regulation on the economy : Socially left-wing period are also economically left-wing.
The first "progressive era" experienced by both USA, Canada, and Western Europe ran from 1945 to the end of seventies and the beginning of eighties. So I tend to think those cycles last for about 30 years, which means the current economic and social regression is coming to an end.

     I think periods tend to be more fluid than that in the United States, & can be loosely seen as corresponding to certain prominent political figures:

1930-1950 trend-left (FDR)
1950-1965 trend-right (Joe McCarthy)
1965-1980 trend-left (Eugene McCarthy)
1980-2005 trend-right (Reagan)
2005-         trend-left (Obama)

     Along those lines, the trends towards American conservatism/American liberalism could be interpreted as a result of the stranglehold of those ideologies on the American political discourse.

     Granted I can't say much about cycles in Europe, though Einzige does have a point that societies trend towards more social permissiveness over time. That should not be too shocking given that social permissiveness in the U.S. has some connection to cities, which I suspect resist the movements to the right to some extent.
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