Regional Protection Party

[Associate Justice PiT]

How can so many people have beefs with our party when they've just joined Atlas?

We aren't here to cater to specific members. We are the premiere and only right leaning party in Atlas. If you want to stay as an independent, fine. No one is forcing you to join. We'd love for you all to join and help us out, but not if you're going to complain about it all the time.

     I suspect it's more like a beef with certain prominent members of the party.

[Associate Justice PiT]

How can so many people have beefs with our party when they've just joined Atlas?

We aren't here to cater to specific members. We are the premiere and only right leaning party in Atlas. If you want to stay as an independent, fine. No one is forcing you to join. We'd love for you all to join and help us out, but not if you're going to complain about it all the time.

     I suspect it's more like a beef with certain prominent members of the party.

Who?  He gave both myself, SPC, and almost all our other candidates first preference

     He hates me & Duke IIRC.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Figured I ought to update the map. Through Persepolis:

     We now have 7 members in the Southeast, 5 in the Mideast, 3 in the Northeast, 3 in the Midwest, & 2 in the Pacific. We now have 20 members total. Hopefully we can gain a few more recruits soon.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     That was current for all of half an hour.

     We now have 7 members in the Southeast, 6 in the Mideast, 3 in the Northeast, 3 in the Midwest, & 2 in the Pacific. We now have 21 members. First time Kentucky has had a voter since I joined the forum. I think this means there's just three or four states left with no voters.

[Associate Justice PiT]

6 in the Mideastthe forum.

The most important number in that equation

     I think we should redouble our recruitment efforts in the Southeast, though.

[Associate Justice PiT]

6 in the Mideastthe forum.

The most important number in that equation

     I think we should redouble our recruitment efforts in the Southeast, though.

We don't have competition in the Southeast for the most part, taking HW is going to require a few more votes IMHO

     However, the Southeast has shrunken in recent months while other regions have grown. We need to get more people (more active ones of course), or sparking activity becomes that much harder.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Updated map showing where we have members. We now have 8 members in the Southeast, 7 in the Mideast, 7 in the Midwest, 3 in the Northeast, & 3 in the Pacific.

[Associate Justice PiT]

DAPS = what now?

    (D)WTL, (A)HDuke99, (P)iT, (S)PC, I assume.

[Associate Justice PiT]

Sign me up on the Pacific side, yeah? I think that brings it up to 4.

     Indeed it does.

[Associate Justice PiT]

I'm sorry, my friends, but in AtlasWiki, you've forgotten me in Ohio. Maybe in your map and count as well...
A pity, as I'll be loyal in my votes, believe me ! And in MidEast, I'll be useful I think...

     You mean the membership list? I stopped updating that a while ago, but I could resume with it. Also, I definitely counted you in the map. We don't have any other party members in Ohio.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I just looked at it, & tmth updated it after I stopped. I think he might've actually forgotten to add you, but I would have to check to make sure.

[Associate Justice PiT]

I'm really glad the RPP is working on a Logo, the Introduction to Atlasia thread could really use it.

We were pushing for one before the election but with all the Persepolis crap and then the election itself it got placed on the backburner. There is competition though so we still have a ways to go before you can update the introduction thread. However the Party numbers are I beleive out of date as I think currently we have either 30 or 31 members now.

Yes I'm sure they are out of date. I'll correct them based on the SoFA's count at some point tonight.

Its 30 according to the wiki. That is probably the best course though. I am sure the JCP has added some more deadwood since then as well. .

     I don't really recall any JCP recruits in the past couple of weeks.

[Associate Justice PiT]

Are we going to be fielding any candidates in the Pacific for the Gov/Lt Gov?

     We generally haven't, considering the strength of the JCP in the region. If you want to run for it though, we would be happy to support you in your bid for office.

[Associate Justice PiT]

Are we going to be fielding any candidates in the Pacific for the Gov/Lt Gov?

     We generally haven't, considering the strength of the JCP in the region. If you want to run for it though, we would be happy to support you in your bid for office.

lol, don't try.

     Noted, but not listened to.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I'd say it qualifies as defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, hateful, & harassing.

[Associate Justice PiT]

Don't worry about it, it's been noted. And I'm leaving it for evidence even though we can't see it anymore.

     Thank you for the help!

[Associate Justice PiT]

My submission:

     The trolling is still not appreciated.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     If there are more than three candidates, everyone blindly approving of all could have interesting consequences.

     Anyway, I have every intention of running for the legislature.

[Associate Justice PiT]

If I can I will run too.

Did you move from the Mideast?

     Yeah, he's now a North Carolinian in Atlasia too.

[Associate Justice PiT]

I think Purple State deserves the third preference endorsement. He's been pro-region on a number of issues, and he is generally willing to compromise with us.

Of course. He helped us hold DWTL's seat back in June..... oh wait. I hope the JCP supports him in the general this time.

     I agree with this. The actions of both him & Hashemite at that juncture were disappointing to the utmost. For that matter, Franzl & afleitch happily enabled their cloak & dagger actions. For some reason I am not interested in seeing any of them win re-election.

[Associate Justice PiT]

I think Purple State deserves the third preference endorsement. He's been pro-region on a number of issues, and he is generally willing to compromise with us.

Of course. He helped us hold DWTL's seat back in June..... oh wait. I hope the JCP supports him in the general this time.

     I agree with this. The actions of both him & Hashemite at that juncture were disappointing to the utmost. For that matter, Franzl & afleitch happily enabled their cloak & dagger actions. For some reason I am not interested in seeing any of them win re-election.

Forgive me for speaking on behalf of the DA or in their defense, but I thought the point of the DA was pragmatism and following, for the most part, individual ideologies that are only loosely connected with each other? (Socially liberal, for instance.) The idea, or the expectation, that the DA should fall lockstep in line with someone else sort of, in my view, goes against what I thought the Democratic Alliance stood for, and I'd be sorely disappointed if I saw them start rallying consistently behind RPP candidates, especially.

In short what I'm trying to say is that you shouldn't expect the DA to fall in lockstep over Senate candidates, expecting that is unrealistic and I think hurts what the Democratic Alliance is.

     I'm guessing you don't know about the reports we received that Hashemite & Purple State leaned heavily on all DAers to vote for you (which came as a disappointment considering Duke's strong personal ties to a number of them, which he had been promised would translate into the bulk of their votes).

[Associate Justice PiT]

I think Purple State deserves the third preference endorsement. He's been pro-region on a number of issues, and he is generally willing to compromise with us.

Of course. He helped us hold DWTL's seat back in June..... oh wait. I hope the JCP supports him in the general this time.

     I agree with this. The actions of both him & Hashemite at that juncture were disappointing to the utmost. For that matter, Franzl & afleitch happily enabled their cloak & dagger actions. For some reason I am not interested in seeing any of them win re-election.

I personally think you misrepresented the position of the DA to the RPP. Marokai was a more active member who contributed a great deal to this game. Duke seemed to provide an ultimatum: either vote me in and I'll be active for once or vote against me and I'll disappear forever.

I vote for who I believe has the most to contribute to the game. In that election it was Marokai. In the next it was DWTL over Fritz. It is against my nature to assume that my support for any one group is unwavering. The RPP has my support when it is appropriate, but not unconditionally.

I believe my credentials, both pro-region and in working with RPP members like NCYank on GM reform, show my true colors. It is up to your membership to decide if that is something you support.

     This has nothing to do with what I said. I heard that you & Hashemite engineered a plot to have the DA to fall in line behind Marokai (despite the inconclusive results of the endorsement vote). Everything that I heard & saw at that time seems to strongly back up that theory. I don't appreciate that, just a heads up.

[Associate Justice PiT]

Perhaps I'm not as loyal to my party as my fellow RPPers, but I personally would love to see both afleitch and Purple State reelected (assuming, of course, that Ronan and/or SPC win too).

Look, as much as I'd have loved to see Duke win, I have a great deal of respect for independently-minded people, and so I cannot hate them for not backing him.

     I don't take issue with them for that. I take issue with them for going out & leaning on all their party members to vote for a candidate that they had not even endorsed.

[Associate Justice PiT]

PiT, I think you believe that Hashemite and I attempt to influence our members' votes far more than we actually do. All I do is announce my endorsement. I don't think I have ever "leaned heavily" on a member to produce a certain vote.

In the DA, we promote loose affiliation. The leaders make our opinions known, but individual members are free to think and act as they wish. This is why there is room for people at every end of the political spectrum in the party. It is also why you may have been disappointed with some of the election results. I endorse Marokai there, DWTL here. I am not a member of either the RPP or the JCP, so I am not committed to supporting one party 100% of the time.

I am sorry if the DA has been misrepresented, but let me be clear: The DA does not hold sway over its members in the way that the RPP and JCP influence their own membership. We like everyone to be informed through announcements and endorsements, but what you see in public is what is actually happening.

     I heard reports that two members of the DA (who shall go unnamed for their protection) had said that they were pressured into voting a particular way. Duke said that several members had promised him their support, but they then preferenced him third only hours later.

     Maybe I remember incorrectly or maybe I was misinformed somewhere down the line, but understand my misgivings.

[Associate Justice PiT]

Oh.

On a lighter note, Happy 1st Birthday...whenever that is...I'm sure its in the next few weeks or so. Or it may have been! Hey ho!

     August 7th. Thanks for the birthday greetings, though. On a side note, yesterday would have been the SDP's 1st birthday, were it still around.