Dirty Tactics in the Dirty South

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I think the dirty trickery here is on the part of Titaniumtux. I never thought that he would end up doing something like this but whatever. So far he hasn't denied that he intiated the PMing. So far he has admitted that he asked Dan a question about his chances in the DS. So far he hasn't denied that Dan responded after Titanium had already voted. What Dan said was what  seemed like an adequate interpretation of the DS. Xahar is definately not the most popular person among the Libertarians and Conservatives in the DS. Taking all of these facts into account, There is no scandal here and all the Attention whoring here needs to stop.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

It's no scandal, but I didn't appreciate the comment on my 'non-anonymous voting'. I wouldn't have seen anything wrong in asking for support prior to the election, it would have seemed like a modest request (unless bribes had been promised in exchange for support). Xahar is in the same party as me, so I figured it would be a good idea to support a fellow party member. Being a n00b to Atlasia and all, I wanted to know what other users thought of this. Again, I didn't find the initial PM I sent to be relevant, but there's no need for me to deny it.

Welcome to Atlasia! Your vote will be the topic of many PMs?. Heck I almost sent one to you asking for your vote, but I ran out of time.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Welcome to Atlasia! Your vote will be the topic of many PMs?. Heck I almost sent one to you asking for your vote, but I ran out of time.

Nothing wrong with asking me to vote for you (unless it's election day).

Well I don't think he was trying to get you to change your vote(it was already after you had voted), just making you aware that it wasn't the wisest course if you intended to seek support from DS Libertarians and Conservatives in the future. What you did to Dan would constitute entrapment.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Tux approached me a few days ago about this, and I told him he should probably let everyone know what was happening. I was not pleased to know that my friend was being harassed via PM, about his vote. Especially as an LNF member, why shouldn't he vote for Xahar? Why should he be threatened about future support?

I haven't seen the PMs, but I trust tux is telling the truth and is quite disgruntled about this. He's not the one to create scandal and outrage over nothing. I'm sure he had every intention to get along with the Governor until this happened.

The facts as previously stated do not back up that interpretation of events.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Tux approached me a few days ago about this, and I told him he should probably let everyone know what was happening. I was not pleased to know that my friend was being harassed via PM, about his vote. Especially as an LNF member, why shouldn't he vote for Xahar? Why should he be threatened about future support?

I haven't seen the PMs, but I trust tux is telling the truth and is quite disgruntled about this. He's not the one to create scandal and outrage over nothing. I'm sure he had every intention to get along with the Governor until this happened.

The facts as previously stated do not back up that interpretation of events.

That's my end of the story. Are you calling me liar?

If the shoe fits, wear it.

The facts as I have gathered was that

1. Titanium PMed Dan asking about his chances as a Libertarian in the DS.
2. Dan responds(after Titanium had voted) by saying that supporting statists isn't a good way to improve those Chances

I don't see how any of that has to do with intimidation. He asked a question and got a response that is that is an adequate interpretation of the politics of Libertarians and Conservatives in the DS.


I think Titanium is exaggerating, and I think you are lying because he is your friend. And I think everyone else wants to use this to beat a Dead horse. We get it, you all hate the RPP/PCP. Doing this king of silly BS isn't goin to make us go away.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I just read some of PMs, and I'm not too happy with some of Mr. Adams' use of language.  He also called the Dirty South "the Sh*ty South", which I found odd...

While mildly disconcerting, I have to ask, was there anything beyond that could come close to being unethical or in any make my interpretation of events less true then yours?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Welcome to Atlasia! Your vote will be the topic of many PMs?. Heck I almost sent one to you asking for your vote, but I ran out of time.

Nothing wrong with asking me to vote for you (unless it's election day).

Well I don't think he was trying to get you to change your vote(it was already after you had voted), just making you aware that it wasn't the wisest course if you intended to seek support from DS Libertarians and Conservatives in the future. What you did to Dan would constitute entrapment.

How the hell is it entrapment? Seems more like a misunderstanding. As a member of the LNF, Tux rightly felt that he should vote for his party member. He also didn't appreciate it when he felt Daniel Adams was threatening him about his political future based on his vote. Now perhaps Daniel was simply pointing out that a vote for Xahar wouldn't help him with the conservatives and libertarians of the "sh**ty south" (Daniel's words, not mine), thus causing a misunderstanding. Don't see how this is entrapment though.

True indeed, the effect though of Tux's actions was entrapment no matter what, but its unintentional in the situation you describe. But if you are a cynnical person like me who often assumes the worst intentions in people's actions and then considers the possibility that it was intentional, then it really is entrapement. If its a misunderstanding why hasn't Tux admitted to it instead of continuing to make this wildly exaggerated claim that Dan intimidated him when no such thing occured?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Welcome to Atlasia! Your vote will be the topic of many PMs?. Heck I almost sent one to you asking for your vote, but I ran out of time.

Nothing wrong with asking me to vote for you (unless it's election day).

Well I don't think he was trying to get you to change your vote(it was already after you had voted), just making you aware that it wasn't the wisest course if you intended to seek support from DS Libertarians and Conservatives in the future. What you did to Dan would constitute entrapment.

How the hell is it entrapment? Seems more like a misunderstanding. As a member of the LNF, Tux rightly felt that he should vote for his party member. He also didn't appreciate it when he felt Daniel Adams was threatening him about his political future based on his vote. Now perhaps Daniel was simply pointing out that a vote for Xahar wouldn't help him with the conservatives and libertarians of the "sh**ty south" (Daniel's words, not mine), thus causing a misunderstanding. Don't see how this is entrapment though.

True indeed, the effect though of Tux's actions was entrapment no matter what, but its unintentional in the situation you describe. But if you are a cynnical person like me who often assumes the worst intentions in people's actions and then considers the possibility that it was intentional, then it really is entrapement. If its a misunderstanding why hasn't Tux admitted to it instead of continuing to make this wildly exaggerated claim that Dan intimidated him when no such thing occured?

Maybe because he thinks he was being intimidated? I see no reason for Tux to entrap Dan.

Indeed that may be the case. The question is does Tux acknowledge there may have been a misunderstanding.

On the surface Tux would have no reason to entrap Dan however I am have become much more skeptical of peoples intentions especially after Hamilton. I also think that the DA/JCP/LNF tag team will do anything to discredit the PCP.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I'd like to apologize to Dan for accusing him of calling the Dirty South the "Sh*ty South [sic]". It appears our message board where tux posted the PMs changes the word dirty to sh*ty for some reason. Rather humourous, but a big misunderstanding.

lol LNFers

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I'd like to apologize to Dan for accusing him of calling the Dirty South the "Sh*ty South [sic]". It appears our message board where tux posted the PMs changes the word dirty to sh*ty for some reason. Rather humourous, but a big misunderstanding.

lol LNFers

Our forum is awesome, but not as much as yours. You can go check it out and see we aren't making it up. Ours is open to the public, unlike yours.

Well judging by the previous post from Brandon, we may be getting some improvements made. .

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

It appears someone created some word filters. "Southeast" translates into "Sh*ty South". Not sure who did that I'm guessing it was Hamilton, as aaronburr is one of the filter words.

thats what you get for having so many Admins.