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« on: May 31, 2013, 07:33:36 PM »
« edited: June 18, 2013, 10:04:05 AM by Senator North Carolina Yankee »

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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2013, 07:37:08 PM »

Okay Kalwejt, get talking here. 24 hours and all that.


I must saw I really love this. I can totally abuse section one to empower the Dean to start and end votes when necessary for instance. Kind of like how I abused my ability to split legislation to combine these together and give it single title. Tongue

We might need to clean this up some more.
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« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2013, 06:48:23 PM »

Of course being empowered and actually getting the job done are two different things don't you know.

It also is a help  at the start of a Senate, should the VP fail to get things rolling now, I (or future longest serving member) could now legally act on Sunday instead of Wednesday.

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Are there any other changes that need to be made from a standpoint of language or concission requirments?
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« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2013, 07:21:46 PM »

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I would say he meant to strike five and insert two and somehow that got garbled. Is that the case Senator Kalwejt? If so then I can alter my text before it is offered and fix it all at once.
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« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2013, 08:03:55 PM »

Actually Kal, that isn't the issue being raised, but the problem with the number of days. The original text had five, which disappears in yours and instead you have two with strikethrough leaving no time for that period. Were you intending to replace the five with a two like in the other parts of the text?


As for empowering the Dean, I would think that as desired in the amendment here before us, the Dean would be so empowered to act at the discretion of the PPT. And if the PPT is gone for the set period anyway, then the Dean takes over as per the second half of the amendment. What do you mean by "without a reason"? Are you meaning if the PPT intentioanlly did not act to open or close a vote, like as some kind of sabotage? Keep in mind that the PPT derives all his powers from the VP and the VP can revoke and reinstate those at will, so it would be difficult for the PPT to do something like that.
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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2013, 07:09:13 PM »

Ah Kalwejt?
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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2013, 08:31:37 PM »

I think two is fine, we just need to fix that error so that is actually becomes two in that one section.
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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2013, 08:34:08 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2013, 06:40:35 AM »

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« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2013, 04:54:50 AM »

The amendent has been adopted.

Are there any final concerns with the text or ideas to improve the system?
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« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2013, 04:59:47 AM »

Well the best way to do it would be either to specify the two boards by name in the text or to specify a definition of the term used that includes both boards specifically by name.
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« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2013, 05:18:34 AM »
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« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2013, 05:21:01 AM »

Damn it Maxy, why didn't you tell me you were going to type a text. Tongue
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« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2013, 05:26:17 AM »

I would think that that the board, includes everything contained within, including child boards.
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« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2013, 05:31:56 AM »


 
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The issue at hand only bares on clause three and from my read has no impact on 2 or 1 of Section of 2, therefore inserting it as clause 4 doesn't seem appropriate. It should be a sub clause added on to 3 if anything.
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« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2013, 05:33:13 AM »

Or inserted into the relevant parts of the text in some manner like the two I composed or something similar.
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« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2013, 11:19:56 PM »

That makes it even worse and here is why. Tongue


Does the term, "Atlasia Boards" appear anywhere else in the OSPR?


Also, shouldn't we consider while we are having this discussion whether or not the AFE board should be included at all? It is not in the requirments for Leaves of Absences/Expulsion, they must be on the AFG board to be legit, for instance. And I can think of at least two Senators who are more active on the AFE, but not so much on the AFG where it matters, but I shalln't name names at this juncture. I posting some meaningless post about some irrelevant matter in AFE really any better than posting some kind of garbage posted in the Forum Community, when it comes to an activty standard for the Senate?
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« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2013, 11:33:34 PM »

Yes, and we replace it with one that replaces Atlasia Boards with Atlas Fantasy Government Board like so: 

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If you prefer an alternative design, please feel free to compose it. I might prefer it myself.
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« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2013, 01:43:11 AM »

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« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2013, 01:46:17 AM »

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« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2013, 06:08:17 AM »

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Status: A Vote is now open on the above amendment, senators please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.
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« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2013, 06:42:41 AM »
« Edited: June 12, 2013, 06:45:10 AM by Senator North Carolina Yankee »

AYE

Is it too much to ask of sponsors to check even just their own bills once every day, especially if there are posts in it?
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« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2013, 01:15:05 AM »

Vote on Amendment 55:17 by NC Yankee:

Aye (7): Αverroës Nix, Ben, HagirdoftheDeep, Kalwejt, MaxQue, Napoleon, and NC Yankee
Nay (0):
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (2): sbane and Snowstalker They must love the pain!!!
Vacant Seats (1): jdb


The amendment has been adopted.

Final vote tomorrow if there are no further problems discovered. We have bad weather coming again to North Carolina very soon, so there might be some delay, unfortunately. In that case I want either Duke or Ben to start this vote if I haven't by noon tomorrow.
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« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2013, 06:57:52 AM »

Final vote tomorrow if there are no further problems discovered. We have bad weather coming again to North Carolina very soon, so there might be some delay, unfortunately. In that case I want either Duke or Ben to start this vote if I haven't by noon tomorrow.

I f**king knew it! Angry

3 days, 300-400 dollars worth of food and a stove. Time for smart grid bitches!



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« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2013, 10:19:24 AM »

Damn it people. We could have really used these provisions just two days ago, you know.


VOTE DAMN IT!!!
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