Should officeholding rapists be immune from impeachment?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

So the lynch first, ask questions second model of political attack, combined with the cliche narrative of Yankee is stupid, Yankee is stuck in the past, or Yankee is political and oh wait, lets not forget the best one, YANKEE IS ING NUTS bullsh**t narratives all in one.


TODAY MUST BE MY ING BIRTHDAY!!!


I got hand to the stupid a-hole that created this thread, Because there few things that genuinely push me over the edge into ing batsh**t crazy pissed off, and coming down on me with this sh**t right after getting home from my bullsh**t job, DEFINITELY COUNTS!!!

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

So the lynch first, ask questions second model of political attack, combined with the cliche narrative of Yankee is stupid, Yankee is stuck in the past, or Yankee is political and oh wait, lets not forget the best one, YANKEE IS ING NUTS bullsh**t narratives all in one.


TODAY MUST BE MY ING BIRTHDAY!!!


I got hand to the stupid a-hole that created this thread, Because there few things that genuinely push me over the edge into ing batsh**t crazy pissed off

Unhinged and SAD!

Don't Care!

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

To take off my Labor hat, I actually agree with Adam.

We were actually very lucky back in summer '15 during the coup to have a Senate that wasn't dominated by radicals; if say TNF (who I recall was a Governor) was a Senator along with two other members (I recall several of the 'radicals' where in the Senate in '15, just had left by the time of the coup) then we would have been powerless to do absolutely anything. So if we'd had that rule back then we could have struggle

At the moment the Senate is made up of trustworthy, independent folks, who I would trust to carry out a hypothetical hearing fairly. As Adam says the big danger is trying to impeach a Senator, or say Cabinet officer all it requires is one inactive Senator (which we've had countless times for various factors) and one less esteemed member.

Reforms like this look sane at the time, they look good and they look sensible. We're most likely to see the effect of this in 1-2 years time, when the majority of us are no longer playing.

Don't forget, that crowd had a majority in the Senate in early 2015 and a near majority again after October 2015 (Truman held the balance of power if I recall). Just imagine a lower threshold leading to the impeachment of Adam during that period.

Yes it does cut both ways.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Many of us have lived through this and all I can assume is that Yankee is either politically-motivated here or is merely doing it because he loves tradition and reminiscing about the good ol' days way too much.

But for want of some sense of self-awareness on your part, perhaps the parking lot would not be littered with the corpses of so many people who have abandoned this game over sh**t like this.

It was a bipartisan meeting like the one you are in now on this issue, very little discussion over how best to handle it. So I made up an amendment, so we could have a discussion on how best to handle it. The amendment reflects the discussion. It doesn't affect some latent desires, anachronism or whatever the  else conspiratorial bullsh**t you want to associate it with.

I spend all day working my ass off, only to check hell for things I had no control over or other people's actions. I am not going to tolerate it here, in the thing I rely upon to relax after dealing with that hell.

So yes I am pissed, because this thread basically served to extend the feelings of hopelessness and despair that I expect to escape from at 11 PM. I might as well just stayed at freaking work and pulled a double. And to top it all off, I have to work again tomorrow.

Congrats Adam! Just go ahead, keep crowing about why you needn't bother to change your ways at this point. Maybe, someone, at some point will actually give a damn to appreciate such a mighty accomplishment in the annals of being a dick.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

If Yankee is so worried about partisan witch-hunts ruining the process - which he is, and admitted such earlier, so I'm amused over his faux outrage about me alluding to the notion that it was possibly his motivation - then let's find a way to balance such (historically highly unlikely) threats without destroying the entire function in the process. This is a gross over-reaction to a problem that hasn't really ever been one while turning a blind eye to the problem that was caused by this very thing for years prior.

No, you implied I was doing it for the purposes of "gaining partisan advantage". My concern is the exact opposite, a concern that weakened standard will be abused by partisan majorities.

Each of us is responsible for the legislation we introduce, Yankee. We're also responsible for not dragging real-life issues into the game with us and then using them as a crutch to call others meanies, act out of line and generate sympathy off of them.

I disagree, we are responsible for the legislation we pass. I have always introduced legislation for constituents that I didn't always support and left it up to them to make the case for it. I consider this to be no different. I introduced a bill to address an issue with the solution that was recommended to me by two of my constituents.

Adam, what you don't realize is that people don't want to play a game where they are made to feel like crap. Perhaps the fact that you are responding as such, is an indicator that a good number of others, agree with me.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

combined with the cliche narrative of Yankee is stupid, Yankee is stuck in the past, or Yankee is political and oh wait, lets not forget the best one, YANKEE IS ING NUTS bullsh**t narratives all in one.

that's not a narrative, sweetie, that's just the facts

Because you and your friends are on such good terms with the facts.