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« on: July 19, 2016, 06:31:38 PM »


Which delegation ultimately got credentialed in the USVI?
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« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2016, 11:32:08 PM »

Political discourse is dead. It's all about empty platitudes and talking about how satanic and deserving of being thrown in jail the other side is. Truly a sad spectacle.

Political discourse has always been dead, at least since 1800.  It's almost always been about empty platitudes and talking about how evil the other guy is.  For example:

From the campaign of 1800:
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From the campaign of 1884:
Blaine, Blaine, James G. Blaine, The Continental Liar from the State of Maine - Grover Cleveland

Ma, Ma, Where's my Pa, Gone to the White House, Ha, Ha, Ha - James Blaine
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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2016, 01:55:04 PM »

a GOP convention, and especially this one, is to unify the support for the nominee. The idea is to basically get at least everyone who voted Romney and/or McCain on board.   There have been two weak ares for them, real Christian conservatives (the Ted Cruz wing) and educated  semi-moderates (the Kasich/Romney wing). The idea being they have a lot of time to go beyond that to reach swing voters, especially with the debates.

However, are they really using the right tactics to unify Republicans and R-leaning voters? They seem to have decided that they can use Hillary hate to unify, but is focusing on the Fox News/Right Wing radio themes of Behghazi, Hillary for Jail, etc. really helping with their weak areas? It seems to me that it is mostly just throwing emotional red meat at the core demo of angry white working class voters that Trump already has in his back pocket.

The problem for most posters here is that they view the whole convention and most or all of the speeches.  We are political junkies, after all.  I tend to watch the convention more like a normal American - generally only watching what is shown in the 10pm hour (though I'm a sucker for the roll call of the states outdoing themselves because I get to learn "interesting" facts that they are home to the Division 5 champion of Women's Stickball or that they are the real Peach State or that the capital of Nevada is Las Vegas). 

The focus of the 10pm hour has largely been on Trump's family, not so much Benghazi or Hillary for Prison.  This was likely a deliberate choice by Trump to try to soften his image.  The Melania Trump speech arguably backfired due to the plagiarism (unless you think all publicity is good publicity), but Donald Trump Jr.'s speech was a pretty good attempt to make his father look more like a common man than an out-of-touch rich guy like Romney. 

The Benghazi/Hillary for Prison theme has generally only been made in sound bites or talking head panel discussions during this hour.  Christie's speech wasn't in prime time.  Guiliani's speech got some coverage on the broadcast networks.  And they showed Carson and part of General Flynn's speech before dropping it because it was too boring.  That's about it.  The real prime time focus has been on Trump's family, not your usual politicians.  It's an interesting choice, and probably won't pay off, but I understand why the Trump campaign is doing that.
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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2016, 10:01:43 PM »

looks like Cruz forced himself into the 10-11PM hour and therefore forced the networks to have to run over.  Such an epic troll.

Cruz was over before 10.  I don't know whether Eric Trump was supposed to have a 10PM speech, though.
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« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2016, 01:58:06 PM »

Wow, I'm not interested in any of those except the Trumps.

That's been Trump's strategy for the convention from day 1.  It's no coincidence that his family's speeches have been in the 10pm hour, when the broadcast networks join in.
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« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2016, 03:45:58 PM »

CNN is reporting that Tony Perkins and Sheriff Joe Arapio are speaking tonight.

Tony Perkins from Psycho?!? Talk about snarky slogans  writing themselves.  Is anyone at Trump campaign vetting any of this?

Anthony Perkins from Psycho is long dead.  It's probably Tony Perkins from the Family Research Council.
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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2016, 10:45:01 PM »

Any numbers on how many viewed the speech yet?

You won't get the Nielsen overnight TV ratings until tomorrow.
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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2016, 10:47:47 PM »

Too early to tell, especially with a good amount of the audience coming from cable. They may have a preliminary number soon, but most likely, a number won't be known until morning.

As far as the speech being "too long," 74 minutes was probably by design. It went into the 8 pm hour on the West coast and went through the time of the late local news in the East.

Rumor was they were expecting the speech to go around 50-55 minutes with all the applause.  It ran longer - about 20-30 minutes too long for my tastes.
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