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Lincoln Republican
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« on: November 27, 2016, 07:55:04 PM »

Thanks a lot, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.  You've made this national embarrassment our president.   You've prevented Crooked Hillary from becoming our President.

Corrected.
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Lincoln Republican
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« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2016, 08:21:08 PM »

Yeah Trump really went to Loving County, Texas himself and committed voter fraud since Trump voted in NY(NYC to be exact.)

That's really ridiculous to recount every state that Trump won like Trump would have lost SD, ND, MT, KS, OK, TX, LA, MS, MO, AR, TN, KY, SC, IN, WY, UT to begin with? None of those states would Hillary have won anyway.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that Trump explicitly authorized or orchestrated the fraud in Loving County, or anywhere else.  I'm simply asking why his supporters found it necessary to rig the election.  The numbers don't lie.
So your saying his supporters voted twice in some states that he won? Is that it?

What do you mean, 'is that it?'   This is voter fraud - a very serious issue that Republicans have tirelessly worked to discuss and even prevent.

Trump is looking to have lost nationally by 2.5 million votes, but if the fraud of Loving County is any indication, the REAL number may be much larger.  Millions of illegal votes cast for an illegitimate president.  How can we have any trust in democracy?  Trust in our system of government?  Trump supporters not only committed voter fraud, but the man himself appears to be openly admitting it.

The Republicans did not commit voter fraud.  Prove it.

To all the millions of disgruntled malcontents out there:

You lost.

Get over it.

We will begin work on the Supreme Court immediately after taking power.

Thank  you so much Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin for your invaluable support.

Because of you, we will now have a Supreme Court for a generation with justices who respect the constitution.
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Lincoln Republican
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« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2016, 10:39:26 PM »
« Edited: November 27, 2016, 10:47:40 PM by Lincoln Republican »

There are no doubt isolated actual and alleged  incidents of voter fraud out there.

I am not disputing the situation in Loving County.

But that is not as a result of the Republican Party per say.

It would be as a result of some rogue elements or wing nut perpetrators.

When President Elect Trump says millions of ballots were illegally cast, he is obviously not accusing the Republican Party of voter fraud.

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Lincoln Republican
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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2016, 11:24:07 AM »

The Republicans did not commit voter fraud.  Prove it.

To all the millions of disgruntled malcontents out there:

You lost.

Get over it.

We will begin work on the Supreme Court immediately after taking power.

Thank  you so much Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin for your invaluable support.

Because of you, we will now have a Supreme Court for a generation with justices who respect the constitution.
What if Trump's appointees to the Supreme Court turn out to be just as unreliably conservative as Sandra Day O'Connor, Anthony Kennedy, and David Souter?
Don't you realize that no President has any control over their appointees to the Court after the appointment has been made?
I used to vote Republican because I wanted the Supreme Court to be objective and render interpretations of the Constitution that were based on the original meaning of each clause. The Bush v. Gore decision proved to me that Republicans don't actually appoint people like that. This year I voted for Evan McMullin.
If Trump plans to appoint more people like Antonin Scalia, like he said he wanted, then I very much hope that the Senate rejects those nominees. IMO, Scalia was mediocre; he was not a consistently objective interpreter of the Constitution, and he certainly was no originalist. If Democrats unite in opposition to any Scalia clones, they might be able to get the votes of Senators Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, and one more moderate like John Hoeven to defeat them.
On the other hand, if Trump nominates someone who is a clone of Oliver Wendell Holmes, Benjamin Cardozo, or Hugo Black, then I'll cheer along with you that Trump is going to actually improve the Supreme Court and the Constitution will be interpreted objectively and accurately. But if Trump nominates anyone like them, it would be extremely surprising to me.

Thank you.

You have raised some valid points.

Indeed, one cannot accurately predict where a Justice on the court will come down on certain issues.  

Even back to President Eisenhower, when he appointed Earl Warren as Chief Justice, believing him to be the kind of Justice needed, Eisenhower reportedly referred to his appointment of Warren as the biggest mistake he had ever made, as Warren steered the court down a liberal path.

But Trump has released a list of conservative Justices he would appoint.  Many of these are outstanding jurists, who would make excellent Supreme Court Justices.
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Lincoln Republican
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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2016, 03:08:21 PM »
« Edited: November 28, 2016, 06:18:42 PM by Lincoln Republican »

This is an absolutely ridiculous statement by Trump, with no basis in fact.

He should stick to the transition, rather than making outlandish remarks such as this.
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