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« on: May 17, 2016, 02:05:31 PM »
« edited: May 17, 2016, 02:07:34 PM by realisticidealist »

So benchmark is saying turnout in Portland is terrible. It might not hold though, people have till the end of the day to turn in there ballots.

I'm not sure how accurate that really is. Through yesterday, 46.8% of eligible Dems had returned their ballots statewide. Multnomah was at 43.9%, which is lower, but not dramatically. That's slightly higher than Clackamas's 43.2% and slightly below Washington County's 44.8%. Plus Multnomah has more than twice as many returned ballots as any other county so far.

On the other hand, Benton County (OSU) was sitting at 55.4% and Lane County (Eugene) was at 50.6%, both of which should be strong Sanders territories. Marion County (Salem), which might be more pro-Clinton, was at 45.2%.
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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2016, 02:26:15 PM »

So benchmark is saying turnout in Portland is terrible. It might not hold though, people have till the end of the day to turn in there ballots.

I'm not sure how accurate that really is. Through yesterday, 46.8% of eligible Dems had returned their ballots statewide. Multnomah was at 43.9%, which is lower, but not dramatically. That's slightly higher than Clackamas's 43.2% and slightly below Washington County's 44.8%. Plus Multnomah has more than twice as many returned ballots as any other county so far.

On the other hand, Benton County (OSU) was sitting at 55.4% and Lane County (Eugene) was at 50.6%, both of which should be strong Sanders territories. Marion County (Salem), which might be more pro-Clinton, was at 45.2%.

I think your forgetting how high turnout usually is though. Wasnt it something like 80% in 2008?

73.8% of registered Dems voted in the 2008 primary. However, the numbers I've cited for 2016 do not include ballots returned today (the single largest day) or ballots arriving after today. In the 2008 primary, total turnout (for both parties) jumped from 42% to 58% just on election day. We're at 36% overall coming into today. A similar jump to 2008 puts overall turnout at about 52%, which is down, but not terrible.
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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2016, 02:34:14 PM »

^^ Are any of the ballots received after today counted?

Oregon's more strict than WA, it seems, in that the ballots have to be at the elections office by 8pm, but there are some exceptions, such as military ballots.
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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2016, 10:47:25 PM »

As far as delegates go, if Washington had stuck with its primary (instead of a caucus), would the results have been as close as we are seeing in Oregon?    

Depends if it was open or closed. Bernie would probably be looking NH-esque wins in both if they were open primaries.

WA doesn't have party registration, so it couldn't be "closed" in a meaningful sense of the word.
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