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« Reply #75 on: February 09, 2012, 11:26:02 PM »
Quote from: bgwah on February 09, 2012, 11:18:07 PM
Quote from: realisticidealist on February 09, 2012, 11:08:56 PM
I'm genuinely undecided on how I'll vote on this come referendum time. This is the first time I've genuinely felt apathetic about a state legalizing gay marriage.

Please don't turn into a Santorum supporting, anti-gay marriage theocrat. It's been really sad to watch your political transformation... You're smarter than this.

I guess I'll probably vote for gay marriage because I can't think of any good reason not to (though I can think of a lot of bad, visceral, vindictive reasons not to), and I don't think I could possibly face a gay person and tell them they don't deserve the chance to get married. I'd like to think I'm not that heartless.

I just won't feel as good about it as I'd like, and that saddens me.
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« Reply #76 on: February 09, 2012, 11:48:22 PM »
« Edited: February 09, 2012, 11:50:42 PM by realisticidealist »
Quote from: bgwah on February 09, 2012, 11:38:57 PM
Quote from: realisticidealist on February 09, 2012, 11:26:02 PM
Quote from: bgwah on February 09, 2012, 11:18:07 PM
Quote from: realisticidealist on February 09, 2012, 11:08:56 PM
I'm genuinely undecided on how I'll vote on this come referendum time. This is the first time I've genuinely felt apathetic about a state legalizing gay marriage.

Please don't turn into a Santorum supporting, anti-gay marriage theocrat. It's been really sad to watch your political transformation... You're smarter than this.

I guess I'll probably vote for gay marriage because I can't think of any good reason not to (though I can think of a lot of bad, visceral, vindictive reasons not to), and I don't think I could possibly face a gay person and tell them they don't deserve the chance to get married. I'd like to think I'm not that heartless.

I just won't feel as good about it as I'd like, and that saddens me.

Is your new-found religion really making you feel this bad for supporting basic human rights? I hate to budge into something so personal, but perhaps you didn't pick the right church for you...

It's not religion so much as socialization. I don't know...I used to be more passionate about this issue than any other. I used to think exactly the same way as the rest of you guys. But now, I've trained myself to not care because it's the only way to reconcile these two competing interests. I think the way we look at marriage is wrong. I don't think marriage is itself a right per se; I don't like when people say that because I think it demeans marriage. I think marriage is the definition of a privilege and an honor that you must earn, not something that you're entitled to, and perhaps the textual nature of the discourse has allowed me to create artificial reasons to numb myself.

Everything about my ideology should scream for gay marriage to be allowed to those who earn it. I know that I'm being hypocritical otherwise. I've tried to avoid this topic for months, but I don't think I can anymore. I see my emptiness, and I'm ashamed.

I guess gay marriage is the one major issue I don't align with the Catholic Church on. I just need to accept that.
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« Reply #77 on: February 13, 2012, 07:42:50 PM »
I'm sure there will be a referendum, so don't get too excited just yet.
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« Reply #78 on: February 17, 2012, 11:33:23 AM »
« Edited: February 17, 2012, 11:36:20 AM by realisticidealist »
PPP says Santorum is up 9 here on their first night of polling (in the caucus, not the general). I'm still debating on whether I should caucus or not.
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« Reply #79 on: February 17, 2012, 05:28:22 PM »
Quote from: Alcon on February 17, 2012, 02:48:20 PM
Quote from: realisticidealist on February 17, 2012, 11:33:23 AM
PPP says Santorum is up 9 here on their first night of polling (in the caucus, not the general). I'm still debating on whether I should caucus or not.

Did you find out if you can remote-caucus?

I'm considering going if the local GOP will let me (I'm a Democratic PCO), at least to observe.

No, I'd have to drive back to the westside.
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« Reply #80 on: February 25, 2012, 01:27:11 PM »
One week until the caucuses. Anyone else thinking of going?
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« Reply #81 on: February 25, 2012, 01:48:18 PM »

So?
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« Reply #82 on: March 09, 2012, 10:19:00 PM »
Fun times.

http://news.yahoo.com/judge-stabbed-deputy-shot-washington-state-courthouse-010957061.html
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« Reply #83 on: July 09, 2012, 05:42:43 PM »
R-74: Undecided, probably lean yes in the end
I-502: No
I-1185: Hell no
I-1240: Undecided, lean yes though I really don't care very much
SJR-8221: Undecided, lean don't care
SJR-8223: Uh...I guess?
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« Reply #84 on: July 12, 2012, 09:04:34 PM »
Quote from: Meeker on July 12, 2012, 07:49:58 PM
Whoa. Four Republican members of the State House have endorsed some guy named Shahram Hadian for Governor, who is running to Rob McKenna's right: http://hadian2012.com/press-releases/2012-07-12/breaking-news-conservative-leaders-endorse-hadian-governor

Up where I live, I've only seen signs for Hadian, not McKenna.
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« Reply #85 on: July 13, 2012, 11:46:09 PM »
Quote from: TheDeadFlagBlues on July 13, 2012, 11:43:06 PM
For what it's worth: I saw a few Hadian signs in Spokane.

Yeah, but McKenna at least has a presence in Spokane; he's virtually nonexistent in northern Snohomish County. I don't think any of the gubernatorial candidates have signs up in Cheney.
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« Reply #86 on: August 06, 2012, 08:36:46 PM »
« Edited: August 06, 2012, 08:46:24 PM by realisticidealist »
I didn't get to vote. Sad

Granted, I'm no longer in a competitive district, but still.
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« Reply #87 on: August 06, 2012, 08:48:10 PM »

My ballot is on the west side, and I am not. My dad was on vacation until yesterday, so I couldn't get it mailed to me.
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« Reply #88 on: August 07, 2012, 10:02:33 PM »
Polls are closed, so to speak.
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« Reply #89 on: August 07, 2012, 10:08:10 PM »
« Edited: August 07, 2012, 10:10:16 PM by realisticidealist »
Votes in from Clallam. Governor's race essentially tied there. Cantwell at 54%.
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« Reply #90 on: August 07, 2012, 10:11:06 PM »
Quote from: bgwah on August 07, 2012, 10:10:11 PM
Inslee will probably win statewide if Clallam is any indication.

My thoughts as well.
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« Reply #91 on: August 07, 2012, 10:12:23 PM »
« Edited: August 07, 2012, 10:15:26 PM by realisticidealist »
Bunch in from Eastern Washington. McKenna up 46-44. Pierce going for Inslee so far is a good sign for him.

EDIT: Cantwell down by only .45% in Franklin County.
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« Reply #92 on: August 07, 2012, 10:17:43 PM »
DelBene beating Burner in Whatcom.
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« Reply #93 on: August 07, 2012, 10:22:28 PM »
McKenna 46.5%, Inslee 42.8%.
Cantwell 51.7%, Baumgarner 32.3%.

DelBene still in second.
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« Reply #94 on: August 07, 2012, 10:27:09 PM »
Nothing from Snohomish or King yet for WA-01. Still too early to call, but DelBene's looking good so far.
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« Reply #95 on: August 07, 2012, 10:35:51 PM »
Quote from: Alcon on August 07, 2012, 10:33:54 PM
Jay Inslee is doing very well in Snohomish County.

Not surprising as his latest district was there.

Also, DelBene is doing well in Snohomish.
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« Reply #96 on: August 07, 2012, 10:37:49 PM »
Quote from: Alcon on August 07, 2012, 10:36:46 PM
Spokane is not great for Inslee...and he's trailing in Mason an Cowlitz.  A theme about suburban vs. working-class voters is starting to appear here

Inslee is doing well in Pacific and Grays Harbor though. That pattern is enough to give a Dem a win. I am surprised at Inslee's poor performance in Whitman though. WSU not in?
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« Reply #97 on: August 07, 2012, 10:40:35 PM »
Quote from: bgwah on August 07, 2012, 10:38:27 PM
Quote from: Alcon on August 07, 2012, 10:36:46 PM
Spokane is not great for Inslee...and he's trailing in Mason an Cowlitz.  A theme about suburban vs. working-class voters is starting to appear here

Rossi won both of those counties. We've been seeing this trend develop for years.

Inslee is leading in recently Republican counties like Skagit and Island.

Are Skagit and Island really still Republican counties?
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« Reply #98 on: August 07, 2012, 10:42:14 PM »
DelBene is up in King. I think she has it in the bag. Also, Inslee's doing well in Thurston.
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« Reply #99 on: August 07, 2012, 10:47:29 PM »
Also, Koster is going to be well under 50%. Good sign for the Dems in the fall.
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