The Oldiesfreak Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts III

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Do I care about breaches of privacy? Yes. I supposed my less than outraged reaction is due to the fact that I just assumed the government was doing it.

To clarify I do understand the outrage from other people - personally, because I just assumed such practices were already happening ... it wasn't a shock therefore doesn't incite much at all from me.

I don't think it warranted that kind of response.

Completely agree.  If you are scared of surveliance and spying, then you have something to hide.  If you have nothing to hide, then the government/police won't see anything incriminating.  Palantir is a cool company and they are the "person of interest computer" that powers online spying.  I think that we live in an age of complete transparency, and if you want to keep secrets, then don't post anything online ever.  Transparency is a 2 way street and we want the government to be transparent and hold them responsible, but we also have to hold ourselves responsible as responsible law abiding citizens.  Every president and liberal president promises to "change the culture of government" but it doesn't surprise me at all that once a Democrat President gets into office, he/she sees how amazing the power he has and uses all this power of the executive branch to his fullest power to obtain re-election and other goals.  The Constitution is merely a document that may "change based on the times" and we live in a time where Transparency beats Privacy, and the Constitution is a contract that is only enforceable by lawsuits and jailtime, so unless the president, AG, IRS, etc. are impeached or jailed, then none of these spying practices will be considered wrong.

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When I was visiting Berlin, my hostel was in a Turkish neighborhood. They had these little hotdog stands that said Currywurst on them. I thought it must be some cool fusion that would be amazing. Nope. Regular American style hotdog with ketchup and curry powder on it. So gross!  

That anyone fears big business is astounding. What world do you live in?

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This might very well be altogether the best/worst display of slack-jawed idiocy on this general subject:

Wow, I thought the countries of Western Europe were friends and allies of the United States. Suddenly helping us catch a fugitive guilty of espionage is some act of supreme cowardice and spinelessness?? Ridiculous. I would hope and expect the United States to do the same if a German or Austrian or Italian or whatever criminal on the run was possibly flying through American airspace. 

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Mods pls rename thread to: "Straight white male: 'Why do people make such a big deal about race???'" thx

Can you take your hateful views somewhere else please, we all know you're racist, no need to provide us with more evidence.

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Well, Bubba and a few other choice prison individuals might see to that, Bradley.

...can we ban this ftard already?

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fake Democrat Kucinich

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all my money is going towards Call of Duty: Ghosts at the moment

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No.  They are crypto-fascists.

I think you have the wrong thread.

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Why would you just judge a president on his belief instead of his actions? Even if he was personally a virulent racist (which is debatable), he did more to advance the position of black Americans than arguably any non-Abraham Lincoln president.

He was the Senate majority leader during the 1957 Civil Rights Act. He gutted Eisenhower's bill for the reasons he listed in his quote. Then he claimed Eisenhower's reforms as his own in 1964 because he thought it would expand his political power. He helped black Americans by delaying Civil Rights by 7 years?

The Great Society "welfare" policies were born of paternalistic racism. He believed black Americans couldn't take care of themselves; therefore, the government would keep them out of the system by putting them on a government allowance and government healthcare plan. He was pro-abortion because he knew it was a form of backdoor eugenics, and Democrats basically teamed up with Alan Guttmacher to make sure that contraceptives and abortions were readily available to "low-income" (read: black) Americans. In LBJ's defense, it was soulless Nixon who put Title X through.

Johnson's vision for a Great Society was nothing we would support today, yet people defend his legislation as if it were religious canon. I just wonder how many more years it will take before people come to their senses.

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Are there really that many fundies? Strange.

Is that what we are calling Christians, Jews, and Muslims now?



And 100% of Bibles say homosexuality is a sin.

So that math looks about right to me.  What am I missing here?

Where did Alfred suggest that all people of faith are fundies?

He is speaking in generalities and I am speaking in generalities.  Look at the math that was posted.  The OP says 51% of Americans think gay sex is immoral.  That is the majority of people with Judeo Christian beliefs.  That is not all but most.  In fact that is most of the people in the United States.

The thing is if you are above a certain age and spent time going to Bible study, Church or theological school you would know that it is not controversial within Judeo Christian beliefs to say homosexuality is a sin.  The Bible is pretty clear on that point.

The reaction by people in this thread is why we miscalculated Iraq and Afghanistan as well as a host of other places.  People ignore the ample evidence that conflicts with their desired version of reality.  If someone disagrees with them they dismiss them as crazies or "fundies."  People aren't even willing to do thoughtful realistic analysis of the cultural and religious aspects of America... how can they hope to understand places like Iraq or Afghanistan?

Reconciling the Bible and modern acceptance of homosexuality is a tough thing for the majority of Americans.  A bunch of adolescents sitting around and calling the majority of Americans "fundies" because they are struggling to reconcile their upbringing and culture with modern reality is the type of thing that makes me realize we really shouldn't go around messing with other countries.  If we are that ignorant about our next door neighbors lord knows what we don't know about cultures half way around the world.

Frankly I would have thought the percentage would have been higher.  My personal theory is people are beginning to know the right answer to these types of questions regardless of what is in their heart or mind.  Which isn't a bad thing.  It's a step on the road to détente.

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Someone should bump the Oldiesfreak thread. Then name this thread after someone else.

"the obamanation deluge of absurdity, ignorance, and bad posts iii" does have a nice ring to it.