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Junior Chimp
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« on: May 03, 2024, 08:17:43 PM »

18% of Jews need to take a good hard look at themselves.

Regardless of how you feel on the issue, policing Jews on their opinions isn't really your place. And I say that as someone who is mostly in the red camp on the graph.
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Ancestral Republican
Crane
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,881
Israel


Political Matrix
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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2024, 08:41:47 PM »


The 1960s version of Computer89 would have opposed this too.
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Ancestral Republican
Crane
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Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,881
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -8.16, S: 3.22

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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2024, 09:51:25 PM »

On the contrary, I've been thinking that a lot of these pro-Palestine "Jews" are not actually Jewish.  I am assuming that the responders to these polls self-identify.  Then, I have found that a lot of people with Jewish "ancestry" consider themselves Jewish, even if they have never participated in a Jewish ceremony, and have no Jewish education whatsoever.  I have also found that a lot of people who claim that they are Jewish actually have a (usually non-observant) Jewish father but a non-Jewish mother, which makes them non-Jewish (unless they are actively practicing Reform Judaism; even then, most non-Reform Jews would still not consider them Jewish).  Or even just a Jewish paternal grandfather, because their last name is Jewish.  I have found that a lot of such people, because of a lack of Jewish - or any religious education - oppose Israel, because reasons.

Then there are the several thousand Satmar Chassids in the USA, who are an entirely different matter.

So who gets to decide which jewish people aren't "real" jews? Just curious.

Since you liked his post saying that the 18% of Jews are real ones, can we assume you're Jewish? I missed if this has been discussed before.

Not what he meant.
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Ancestral Republican
Crane
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,881
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -8.16, S: 3.22

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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2024, 10:03:29 AM »

Israel's dominant political party for the first 20-30 years or so was the labour party, and it only started to shift as neoliberalism came in, and Israel shifted to the US more.


Menachem Begin is the worst electoral choice Israel ever made, and Bibi is a close second.
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Ancestral Republican
Crane
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,881
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -8.16, S: 3.22

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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2024, 10:25:24 AM »

Israel's dominant political party for the first 20-30 years or so was the labour party, and it only started to shift as neoliberalism came in, and Israel shifted to the US more.


Menachem Begin is the worst electoral choice Israel ever made, and Bibi is a close second.


Begin was the greatest Israeli PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre
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Ancestral Republican
Crane
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,881
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -8.16, S: 3.22

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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2024, 10:41:53 AM »

Israel's dominant political party for the first 20-30 years or so was the labour party, and it only started to shift as neoliberalism came in, and Israel shifted to the US more.


Menachem Begin is the worst electoral choice Israel ever made, and Bibi is a close second.


Begin was the greatest Israeli PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre

He doesn't care. And I'm being nice.

I assume most of the time he is coming from a place of ignorance, not malice.
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Ancestral Republican
Crane
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,881
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -8.16, S: 3.22

P

« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2024, 02:04:40 PM »


Begin got peace with Egypt done and his economic policies were truly transformational as well. He successfully was able to move Israel from a socialist economy to a free market economy as well which was 100% needed.


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